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    OK guys and gals,

    I'm hoping that one of you can answer this.

    I've heard that the stimulation levels on a collar -let's say a TT Pro 500 in "nick" mode, overlap... I've also heard they stairstep up linearly (which I don't think I buy)

    Who can tell me: Is it A)

    From low to high 1 low, 1 med, 1 high, 2 low, 2 med, 2 high, 3 low.....

    Or is it B)

    There's some overlap and a 3 high is higher than a 4 low (as an example)

    I've heard it both ways.

    Is there any sort of calibrated settings that would quantify the specified electricity "doses" for each level of stimulation? (I realize that there will be ranges and there will be variations from unit to unit and likely from brand new perfect batteries versus old worn ones)

    Thanks!

    Chris

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    FWIW I have found that the duration of the nick (the low, med, high) its at least as important as the number. That is to say for my dog a 2 high is a tougher correction then a 3 low.

    I believe the 1-5 controls the juice, but the low, med high controls the duration of the juice in the nick mode (somehting like 1/100, 1/10th and 1 full second)? Continous is a whole different thing and I rarely use it.
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    Chis,

    It depends on the make and model of collar. They all don't work the same. You'll need to research each of the collars you're interested in to determine how each of them work.

    In the case of a Pro 500, the levels vary (low, medium, high) in the continuous mode. In the momentary mode the level remains the same, but the duration of the nick varies (nick, bump, burn).

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    I am not sure about the levels scaling, but we only use continuous. Timing is everything with the collar, and you need to be able to control that down to the nanosecond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msdaisey
    I am not sure about the levels scaling, but we only use continuous. Timing is everything with the collar, and you need to be able to control that down to the nanosecond.
    So you only burn your dog? You don't take advantage of the numerous benefits of the momentary stimulation?
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    Well, i've discussed this numerous times regarding TT collars in particular and while I can't fully explain the electrical aspect of it, what I can tell ya is that a high 6 does not overlap with a low 1. Hope that helps some, its all a simple redneck can fully understand.

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    Put it on your arm and try it out! Everyone should know exactly what correction they are subjecting their dog to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lab-Kid
    Put it on your arm and try it out! Everyone should know exactly what correction they are subjecting their dog to.
    I agree... I think we all - human and canine have our own thresholds of pain. But the best way to put ourselves in the shoes of another is to see how we personally would interpret it.

    I've zapped myself all the way up to the highest level I've given my dog.... But I'm looking for a little "science" or a little engineering design knowledge, if anyone on the board has it.

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    Not trying to be smark alecky, but have you contacted TriTronics? They might be the best ones to give you an explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Carlson
    Not trying to be smark alecky, but have you contacted TriTronics? They might be the best ones to give you an explanation.

    No smart donkeys in Maine regards,

    Andy
    Yes, I spoke with the product specialist a while ago....

    I really do need to have another discussion.

    I was told that it is a linear stairstep or progression with no overlap. I was told that the specific, quantified levels were either not readily available or were considered proprietary... You're right though, I need to give them another call.

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