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    All the hunt test we have run the judge's have stated that the dog can pick up the bird's in any order.We will be running our first Q in the fall,my question is in a Q,or any other FT stake,is it a negative to pick up the bird's out of order?Will the judge's let you know to "pick them up in order" or "pick them up in any order"?The reason I ask is that my 3yr old will sometimes,(when the bird's are right,middle,left),select the 2 outside bird's first then pick up the middle one last.Other time's she will pick them up in order.

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    You can pick them up in any order.

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    You can pick them up in any order you like.

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    Forgive me Jason for leaching off your post:

    Does it earn you any "points" in a FT if you run it a harder way (and succeed of course)? Or, do you just pick 'em up and get to the next series?

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    One of the FT rules is a judge cannot select order of retrieve in a marking test....poison birds excluded. Carrys over supposedly, to the hunt test game as well.

    HRC hunt tests are the only game I'm aware of where the judges have the authority to select the order of retrieves.

    There are NO extra points given in trials, selecting a different order than what the dog would normally select.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bill
    One of the FT rules is a judge cannot select order of retrieve in a marking test....poison birds excluded. Carrys over supposedly, to the hunt test game as well.

    HRC hunt tests are the only game I'm aware of where the judges have the authority to select the order of retrieves.

    There are NO extra points given in trials, selecting a different order than what the dog would normally select.

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    I understand that literally no extra points are awarded, what I'm wondering is if mental points are tucked away by a FT judge for the dog that does it the more challenging way versus the rest of the field.

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    2 dogs; I'm not a mind reader but I can't imagine any judge giving "extra points" for selection. Pick em up however, just make sure to pick em all up

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2-Dogs
    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bill
    One of the FT rules is a judge cannot select order of retrieve in a marking test....poison birds excluded. Carrys over supposedly, to the hunt test game as well.

    HRC hunt tests are the only game I'm aware of where the judges have the authority to select the order of retrieves.

    There are NO extra points given in trials, selecting a different order than what the dog would normally select.

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    I understand that literally no extra points are awarded, what I'm wondering is if mental points are tucked away by a FT judge for the dog that does it the more challenging way versus the rest of the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2-Dogs
    ....I understand that literally no extra points are awarded, what I'm wondering is if mental points are tucked away by a FT judge for the dog that does it the more challenging way versus the rest of the field.

    Mark
    It could work the other way. I've heard a judge say, "we only had one dog that cheated the set-up" at the completion of a series. He was referring to a handler that selected the 1st bird down, retired (supposed to be anyway) before the gun could retire. The dog was called back & I don't recall how/if the dog finished or placed. But judges will go to great lengths to discourage or make it difficult for a handler to select a retired gun first.
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