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    Ok, somebody help me remember (I'm old and blonde, remember?) how many points a dog receives in Opens and Amateurs for placements. I tried to find in on the AKC web site but couldn't. Someone asked me and I realized I couldn't remember. Thanks in advance for your time and patience.
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    Isn't it

    1st - 5
    2nd- 3
    3rd - 1
    4th - 1/2

    ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boondux View Post
    Isn't it

    1st - 5
    2nd- 3
    3rd - 1
    4th - 1/2

    ???
    Yes!

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    Thanks, I thought that was right, but then started 2nd guessing myself and was thinking the Amateur carried different values?

    Thanks for helping to reassure my feeble mind.
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    I believe that a 2nd place is worth 2 points not 3.

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    Nope worth 3....
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    From Field Trial Rules (akc.org)

    At present, to acquire an Amateur Field Championship, a Retriever must win:
    (1)
    a National Championship Stake, handled by an Amateur, or a National Amateur Championship Stake or
    (2)
    a total of 10 points in Open All-Age, Limited All-Age, Special All-Age or, Restricted All-Age stakes, or a total of 15 points in Open All-Age, Limited All-Age, Special All-Age, Amateur All-Age, Owner-Handler All-Age, or Restricted All-Age Stakes which may be acquired as follows:
    In each Open All-Age, Limited All-Age, Special All-Age, Restricted All-Age, Amateur All-Age, or Amateur Handler All-Age Stakes there must be at least 12 starters, each of which is eligible for entry in a Limited All-Age, Special All-Age Stake or Restricted All-Age Stake, and the Handler must be an Amateur (as determined
    by the Field Trial Committee of the trial-giving club), and the winner of first place shall be credited with 5 points, second place 3 points, third place 1 point, and fourth place 1⁄2 point, but before acquiring a championship,a dog must win a first place and acquire 5 points in at least one Open All-Age, Limited All-Age, Special All-Age, Amateur All-Age, Owner-Handler Amateur, or Restricted All-Age Stake open to all breeds of Retriever, and not more than 5 points shall be acquired in trials not open to all breeds of Retriever.
    At present, to acquire a Field Championship, a Retriever must win:
    (1) a National Championship Stake or (2) a total of 10 points, which may be acquired as follows: In each Open All-Age, Limited All-Age, Special All-Age, or Restricted All-age Stake, there must be at least 12 starters, each of which is eligible for entry in a Limited All-Age, Special All-Age or, Restricted All-Age Stake, and the winner of first place shall be credited with 5 points, second place 3 points, third place 1 point, and fourth place 1⁄2 point, but before acquiring a championship a dog must win first place and acquire 5 points in at least one Open All-Age, Limited All-Age, Special All-Age or Restricted All-Age Stake, open to all breeds of Retriever, and not more than 5 points of the required 10 shall be acquired in trials not open to all breeds of Retriever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FOM View Post
    Nope worth 3....
    Thanks for the correction. Now if I can only get one (second place that is).

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    What are the different scenarios the designate a dog as QAA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Dwyer View Post
    What are the different scenarios the designate a dog as QAA?
    From Field Trial Rules available under Registration at akc.org

    Derby and Qualifying.

    SECTION 10. A Derby Stake at a Retriever trial shall be for dogs which have not reached their second birthday
    on the first day of the trial at which they are being run. For example, a dog whelped May 1, 1983, would not be eligible for Derby Stakes at a trial starting May 1, 1985, but would be eligible at a trial the first day of which was April 30, 1985. Derby stake tests are limited to marked retrieves and dogs which are handled on such retrieves shall be eliminated from competition.
    A Qualifying Stake, or an Owner-Handler Qualifying Stake at a Retriever trial shall be for dogs which have never won first, second, third, or fourth place or a Judges’ Award of Merit in an Open All-Age, Limited All-Age, Special All-Age, or Restricted All Age Stake, or won first, second, third or fourth place in an Amateur All-Age Stake, or Owner-Handler Amateur All-Age Stake, or won two first places in Qualifying Stakes at licensed or member club trials. In determining whether a dog is eligible for the Qualifying Stake, no award received on or after the date of closing of entries shall be counted.
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