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    When is the best time to praise a dog when you are starting casting drills, when they start in the correct direction from the cast you have given them, or after they complete the cast and retrieve and return to your side? Just wandering if it makes any difference.
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    Well, if you are going to praise or correct, it better be immediate or there will be no connection to the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDbaydog View Post
    When is the best time to praise a dog when you are starting casting drills, when they start in the correct direction from the cast you have given them, or after they complete the cast and retrieve and return to your side? Just wandering if it makes any difference.
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    Depends on the dog. My youngest Peake has a habit of forgetting what he is supposed to be doing if I praise him before he is enroute with the bumper/bird. Once he is hauling home with the retrieve, the praise just speeds up his feet and tail.
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    For my dog, getting the bumper in his mouth is reward enough for going the correct direction-I praise on the way in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pupaloo View Post
    For my dog, getting the bumper in his mouth is reward enough for going the correct direction-I praise on the way in.
    But what if it's in a phase of training where he isn't sure yet about changing direction and that it will lead to a bumper? (And I'm just ASKING-don't anybody fry me! )
    I'm a big "good dog" fan for both good eye contact & when the lightbulb moment happens.
    I'm pleasantly surprised to see that others feel that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miriam Wade View Post
    But what if it's in a phase of training where he isn't sure yet about changing direction and that it will lead to a bumper? (And I'm just ASKING-don't anybody fry me! )
    I'm a big "good dog" fan for both good eye contact & when the lightbulb moment happens.
    I'm pleasantly surprised to see that others feel that way.

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    Exactly. My interpertation of the original post is "at the begining of casting drills" so if you give the dog an over cast and he looks but not sure what to do a good dog thats it will help then also after he picks it up praise the hell out of him for being successful. Actually at the VERY begining you should be tossing a bumper to the pile so it is a no brainer for the dog, he should be wanting to go anyway. The next phase when you start with the piles already in place is where confusion could set in and he needs incouragement. In the very begining stages of teaching anything I am constantly talking and trying to comunicate with the dog to get the proper response.

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    My dog is like Mr. Gutermuth's. Praising him on the way is apt to distract him-he's very goofy. I threw a bumper to the pile early on, and that was enough. If my dog is unsure when the piles are already out, the way for me to "explain" to him is to look in the direction I am going to cast him.
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    Pupaloo, its just Bob. Many of the folks I have dealt with over the years cannot spell nor pronounce my name(lots of Smiths, Merediths Todds and Willeys where I live). About the only ones I could rely on to get it right were judges & lawyers since as a cop I spent lots of time in court.

    Throwing a bumper to the pile is a good idea, as is starting with the dog sitting somewhere in the direction of the cast. If you place your dog on the pitchers mound and are sending him to first, sit him with his body at 20 after, if you are sending to third set him at 20 of.
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    I praise once a dog has accomplished something worthy of praise. My experience with young dogs is that praising them too early is distracting to them and slows down learning.

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