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    Hey its pouring outside and icier than he!! So I got to thinkin,,,,,,,always thinkin,,, Are we allowed to think about this stuff and if we are,,,, are we hateful or should we all just get along. And what exactly is america.. When I was young it was honerable to be a patriot and I wonder now if patriotism is just another word for racist or faciest. Here goes. I have my head tucked in my bite suit. Let her rip baby!

    Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.

    Can a good Muslim be a good American?

    Theologically - no. . . . Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon God of Arabia.

    Religiously - no . . . Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (
    Quran, 2:256) (Koran).

    Scripturally - no. . . Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the

    Geographically - no. . . . Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

    Socially - no. . . . Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

    Politically - no. . . . Because he must sub mit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of
    Israel and destruction of America , the great Satan.

    Domestically - no. . . . Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

    Intellectually - no. . . . Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles, and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

    Philosophically - no. . . . Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

    Spiritually - no. . . . Because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent names.

    Therefore after much study and deliberation, perhaps we
    should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country.

    They obviously cannot be both "good" Muslims and good Americans.

    * * * Call it what you wish; it's still the truth.

    The religious war is bigger than we know or understand.
    And Barack Hussein Obama, a Muslim, wants to be our President?
    You HAVE to be kidding?! Wake up America !

    Obama even says if he wins the election, he will
    be sworn in on the Quran (Koran)---not the Bible!

    I don't know the guy and I have no opinions on him other than he is an outstanding talker. As america is a melting pot,,does that mean we have to all accept each others extremest views and perversions?
    See what happends when you give me a day off . A lttle coffee talk for a cold and damp day.
    My votes for hillery

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    Pete, The two things my father told me not to discuss in public were politics and religion. You got them both.

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    Me too
    Thats probably why those are my most favorite topics to discuss

    Now I know why my wife tries to keep me busy.

    I love to hear peoples thought processes ,,and these are a couple of subjects that get the wheels turning. I know BOB GUT got his wheels turnin. I thought I would be bleeding pretty bad by now

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    Excellent post Pete, I don't trust the guy!

    The man doesn't tell us specifically what he wants to do, he just talks in generalities. It's like; just trust me.

    If he wins goodbye to;
    Private gun ownership
    Private medicine
    Private business
    Just to name a few.

    I wonder if he will pardon all his Islamic brothers that are in prison?
    "All those things bother me: The populism, the lying and the scapegoating and the xenophobia bother me, but then there’s a layer of incompetence here. I suppose, in a way, we should be thankful: If he had a coherent ideology, he’d probably be more dangerous." P J O'Rourke

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    Ignoring the fact that Obama is a Christian, not a Muslim, these sound like the same ridiculous arguments that have been used in the past to argue that a Catholic could not be a good American or the Jews killed Christ and should be killed themselves. Religious prejudice is what our ancestors came to America to escape, not create.

    By the way, I heard on good authority that Huckabee is actually a Satan worshiper and that McCain likes little boys. Give me time and I'm sure I can come up with pictures as proof.

    The fact is that those who try to lead with hate and fear are usually the ones with the most to hide. They play to our fears so that we won't have time to use our eyes and our brains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    And Barack Hussein Obama, a Muslim,
    The discussions are much more interesting when the information posted is accurate, while I am neither supporter of Obama nor the Democratic party I prefer to debate factual information. That Obama is a "Muslim" is a an inflammatory urban legend used to discredit him and is not verified by everyone who reads such false statements.

    If you dislike his politics state so and why, perhaps then you can get some meaningful discussion.

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    Truth illuminates, Lies are the dark shadows of deceit. I said that.....pete
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    I don't care if he's a Muslim, or not, he has Socialist dreams for our country, that's enough for me to NEVER vote for him.
    "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdA View Post
    That Obama is a "Muslim" is a an inflammatory urban legend used to discredit him and is not verified by everyone who reads such false statements.[/B]
    Now don't get me wrong there's no way I'm voting for any of the Democratic canadates this go around. Maybe I'm just stupid, but why would it be inflammatory? Is being a "Muslim" a bad thing as stated by Pete or is Pete just a "Bigot"?
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    He might not be a muslim, but his parents were both and a documentry on his dad was pretty reveiling. So givin that little factoid and if you followed through the logic of a good muslim then you could come up with the conclusion that his parents were not good muslims although they certainly appeared to be characterized good muslims. I guess if they were good muslims Obama would have met the same fate as that muslim girl who dated a non muslim guy in texas I think.
    How do the elite groom people for future success.
    Is his so called christian faith a cover. ? or do I watch to much TV
    If you don't know exacly what a real 50 dollar bill looks like you will never know what a good counterfit looks like.

    I don't know,,,,do most people who lack experience in most catagories of running a goverment do so well when they run for the highest office .

    I personally believe he is honest to his own convictions and is not trying to fool anyone. But I consider his ways very unamerican ,,,anyway the america I grew up in.
    I still believe that liberalism is a mental disorder and logical thought processes are difficult for some and its nobodies fault. But President of the USof A?

    At least I wont have to think about being a world traveler anymore,,,
    The culture of the world will be in my own back yard. I will click my heels 3 times now and see what happens.

    Just makin friendly conversation

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