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Thread: Can pheasants be specified for Open only on premium?

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    Default Can pheasants be specified for Open only on premium?

    When possible, why not use Pheasants only in the Open when the trial size is so large.

    Since they are so difficult on the dogs why don't more clubs use them in the first series and come up with a 1st series "National" type test?

    Tough double with maybe a blind thrown in to cut down on time while getting your first and second series out of the way.

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    There was a trial this past weekend in Louisiana that used all HEN pheasants except for one bird in the last series. I just figured they used pheasants since they are such a popular wildgame bird down here.

    As long as the premium states;

    Ducks and/or Pheasants
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    I'm pretty sure that the Del Bay RC uses pheasants in the first series in the Open and Amateur. Not sure about the minor stakes.

    Vikki

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    It is true that Delbay uses pheasants on land in the all-age stakes. Also at Master on land. The minor stakes are duck only including Junior and Senior HT.

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    Pheasants aren't as hardy as a good old duck.
    yes hens are great(allot less scent) but getting them to the clubs can cause the clubs more money because the birds don't survive the travel or the weekend like Daffy Duck.
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    Shooting pheasants are harder than ducks. Clubs can use dead pheasants on retired birds and ducks on flyers. That will get you some answers. I'd take that over going out because the dog didn't see the 600 yard backlit gunner or the dog missed the magic spot on the land blind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    Shooting pheasants are harder than ducks. Clubs can use dead pheasants on retired birds and ducks on flyers.
    what a terrible waste of pheasants, nothing is more exciting to a dog and more likely to affect it's memory than a flying pheasant, most duck flyers are little more that a dead bird throw with lots of shooting and 3 people at the flyer station

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    How do you justify that with the fact that hen pheasants are not a legal gamebird?

    Just disregard it because they are pen raised???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    How do you justify that with the fact that hen pheasants are not a legal gamebird?

    Just disregard it because they are pen raised???

    Jerry
    Jerry,
    Actually in the northern part of Pennsylvania they are a legal game bird. And over the years the PGC has released thousands of birds on gamelands specificly for dog training .

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    Please don't misunderstand my original post.

    I am aware of the fact that pheasants do not hold up like ducks.

    The point I am trying to make is with large trials and time being so precious why not use pheasants in the first series. By doing so could you not downsize the 1st series test because they are such a tough bird to dig out based on scenting alone and allow you to save that precious time.

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