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    Default The Best And Worst Training Books

    The Lazy Dog Post Got Me Wondering What Programs People Think Are The Best,and The Worst. I Have Used The Tt Retriever Training Book By Dobbs, And I Am Now Using Mike Lards Program So Far Pleased With Both Of Them But I Think Lardy Is Easer To Follow.
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    Worst books? Water Dog by Wolters and Dobbs book. The paper would have been better used for Charmin.
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    i have to agree w/ bob

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    Water dog got me started and trained my first lab... JMHO, it's a good book. It's a bit outdated, but still have some good stuff especially the early stages of training.

    For me, Mike Lardy DVD/books(manuals) is the best out there. Everytime I watch and read his book (20x), there is always something I can pick up and learn.

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    I agree with Bob an Wolters. I've even heard this book called "a pro's secret weapon" because so many folks start with the book and give up and then seek a pro.

    Best book....for a complete beginner it would be Training Retrievers for the Marshes and Meadows by James Spenser. He's written several others that are part of a progression but this is the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Gutermuth View Post
    Worst books? Water Dog by Wolters and Dobbs book. The paper would have been better used for Charmin.
    Yeah, when I got my first lab I was unfortunate enough to get the advice to buy the books by Wolters. It is amazing that he became as an accomplised dog as he did. Between my poor training, lack of equiment and lack of good information he had the deck stacked against him. I would NEVER recommend the Wolters stuff to anyone. Back then (1995) there wasn't nearly the good info out there that there is now. There were no Lardy tapes and virtually no retriever training videos of any kind. Obviously there were no Smartworks books or videos either.
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    inmo water dog's worst atribute is early training all that obedience and spankings will only make a weak dog weaker then there is the no ff issue, mine made for good fire starter

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    I really love the Fowl Dawg Series of DVD. They have helped me so far learn alot.

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    Not trying to suck up to Amy, but "10 Minute Retriever" is the first book I recommend for anyone starting so they can get an idea of what to be expected without spending a ton of money.

    As for Wolters, I actually used "Gun Dog" instead of "Water Dog" for my first lab. I know that it is backwords but I thought "Gun Dog" had better advice and tips. (Just not a fan of his discipline choices).

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    "The Working Retriever" by Tom Quinn -- dated but useful -- certainly agree with Bob on Wolters IMHO -- might work for some but I think the whole point of the 49 day theory is overdone and that the book is too anti-collar for my liking
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