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    Angry New Place?

    I took my BLM to train this morning to a place he has never been before. I ran him on two sets of blinds,3 bumpers in each pile, both at 100+ yards. The first trips to each pile I never had to handle him, he took a straight line and stayed on it right to the pile. The fourth trip to the second pile he decides he wants to do his own thing. I handle him, he gets to the pile. I thought OK maybe he caught wind of something that appealed to him. Back to the first pile, he does the same thing and then I start getting cast refusals and I VERY RARELY get a cast refusal from him.

    Why would he start running all over the place on the confindence blinds after knowing where the pile is? Could it be that it was a new place he wasn't familiar with and wanted to check things out? He has never done this before and it made me extremely frustrated?

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    My advice, quit running the blind over. I would prefer to setup 3 separate sets of blinds. Rerunning blinds rarely is beneficial, does not build confidence and often times degrades into this behavior. Run them once and be happy with the success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun_Dog2002 View Post
    My advice, quit running the blind over. I would prefer to setup 3 separate sets of blinds. Rerunning blinds rarely is beneficial, does not build confidence and often times degrades into this behavior. Run them once and be happy with the success.

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    My thinking as well, sounds like it was affecting your dog's attitude also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maukster View Post
    I ran him on two sets of blinds,3 bumpers in each pile, both at 100+ yards. The first trips to each pile I never had to handle him, he took a straight line and stayed on it right to the pile. The fourth trip to the second pile he decides he wants to do his own thing.
    I would think that on the fourth trip to a blind that originally had three bumpers you'd be sending him on a wild goose chase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Thomas View Post
    I would think that on the fourth trip to a blind that originally had three bumpers you'd be sending him on a wild goose chase.
    Am not sure if you are pulling his chain...
    but there would have been 2 bumpers left if he had sent the dog to pile one, then pile two, then pile one again - and the fourth trip would have been pile two..but that is only IF he was alternating between piles.....

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    yes i was alternating between the two piles. thanks for the help.

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    LOL this is me, Mr. 40 bumpers over here wondering...

    After running 600 yards wouldn't you be ready to screw off a little bit? I would...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_view View Post
    Am not sure if you are pulling his chain...Juli
    Of course I was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun_Dog2002 View Post
    My advice, quit running the blind over. I would prefer to setup 3 separate sets of blinds. Rerunning blinds rarely is beneficial, does not build confidence and often times degrades into this behavior. Run them once and be happy with the success.

    /Paul
    you are absolutely right.

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