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    Anyone load their own poppers? I'm looking for some information to start loading my own.

    Also, anyone make their own blanks? What kind of hulls are you using?

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    http://huntingretrieverclub.org/cgi/...num=1207843129


    take a look at this post from a few weeks ago on the HRC message boards. It is pretty helpful. I load my own with a MEC JR 600 loader. But recently I have stopped and just started reloading the primer loads. which is only a primer and no powder. it is still plently loud in my opinion for steading work and general training and it does not deafen you or the dog!


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    I load blanks. I use a Federal gold medal 12 ga. hull, 16.5 gr. 700x powder, 1 oz. wad, and use oatmeal for filler. They sound like a trap load.

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    Troy, Check out this previous thread - http://www.retrievertraining.net/for...ad.php?t=22996

    I posted:
    Quote Originally Posted by Henry V View Post
    I have used a variation of this recipe. A 29 bushing of Red Dot, any straightwall hull, a 1 oz wad (e.g.12SO equivalent), and drop 11/8 oz of millet. You need to overfill the shot cup so that the crimp works well. I am sure that an overshot card would help but it is not necessary. Do not get them wet just like any other unsealed shell.

    Once started you can easily load a box of these in less than 10 minutes in a progressive. They are dirty though.
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    Troy,

    I collected 100 or so, primer type popper blanks at our ukc hunt test. I just put new 209 primers in them and they work fine. They can be reused a couple of times before the brass wears out. It costs around 3.00 to reload 100 and takes about 20 minutes.

    They sell a tool on most training supply stores which easily pops the old primer out.

    I train with people from 3 states and all have changed to the primer loads. Saves alot of ear drums.

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    I put new primers in 200 A-A hulls last weekend. Took about 30-35 minutes.

    Not sure how effective they will be on a windy day but will find out soon enough.

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    Ok, so after reading a little more I completed re-edited this post.

    for 1000 rounds you're looking at about 3 cents per primer. How many shots are the hulls good for if using AA hulls? I think primers are all we'll need. Full poppers probably are too much for our training situation.
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    If you are just shooting primers out of empty hulls the hulls should last forever or until they are lost. The primer pocket should not wear out, but if you switch to a larger diameter primer and then go to a smaller diameter the primers will slip out unless you recondition the primer pocket.

    Here is a list of primer diameters. AA and Federals are the smallest and one of the reasons they do not work so well in primer pistols.

    PRIMER DIA INCHES DIAMETER MM
    CC1209 0.243 6.17
    CHEDDITE CX2000 0.243 6.17
    FEDERAL 209 0.241 6.12
    FIOCCHI 615/616 0.242 6.15
    WINCHESTER WAA209 0.241 6.12

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    I think the hulls "wear out" primarily because of the resizing of the brass.

    Not much of that is necessary when just using a primer.

    Jerry
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    Federal 209a primer , 18 grams of WST powder , and a hull . That be all I use -
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    Last edited by Tom H.; 02-22-2011 at 06:54 PM.

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