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    Being new to this training thing I have a question. I was just reading a thread on Force Fetching. Seams some have a diff opinion on it. I wanted to know who has and who hasn't used FF on their dogs.

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    We'll just say that a majority have and a minority haven't. If you use the search function about Force Fetch you'll find TONS of threads about reason for or against.
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    I see a ton for it and almost knowone against it, but I just wondered if guys find good results without it. I am going to do it soon but will admit I find it hard to believe that I need to. I have been training and have not had one problem and my dog never lets me down. (that is if he understands what I want)

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    You would probably be better off posting this question as a poll. However, on this site, which is a more serious retriever training site that some others IMO, I believe you would find that an overwhelming majority do force fetch. Count me as a yes on the ff question.
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    I'd suggest that you keep an open mind and do what works for you and your dog(s).

    I've done it both ways and for the last several dogs, have found that FF has been a step worth doing.

    I'm a "never say never" type, but would imagine that FF will be part of the curriculum with future pups that I train.

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    Quote Originally Posted by outdooratticinc View Post
    I see a ton for it and almost knowone against it, but I just wondered if guys find good results without it. I am going to do it soon but will admit I find it hard to believe that I need to. I have been training and have not had one problem and my dog never lets me down. (that is if he understands what I want)
    The reason for FF isn't just so your dog will retrieve. If he doesn't do that naturally then you are fighting an uphill battle and should reconsider training the dog anyway (if we are talking about a retriever). The reason is that it is the cornerstone of any force based training program. It (force) turns commands from "suggestions" into "commands." It teaches the dog the proper reaction to force (compliance with a known command) and how to turn it (force) off (quick compliance).

    Get some good FF materials though such as Fowl Dogs 1 and/or the SmartFetch book. I used the SmartFetch book on my most recent time. The DVD that goes with the book was not out yet at the time or I would have bought that too. BTW, I used Training Retrievers for the Marshes and Meadows by James Spencer for my first dog and that was fine too.

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    Just getting started with one right now.

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    Outdooratticinc,


    I was in the same boat as you last year, and i opted to force fetch, and have never looked back. it is a necessary tool if you want to progress the training to a higher level, and it is a very convenient if not necessary compliment any hunting dog should have.

    Pick up some training material, i myself am following the Fowl Dawgs system by Rick Stawski, but the Smartworks series is great also. follow the material to a T, and watch that little guy develop before your eyes to a retrieving monster that all of your hunting friends will envy you for!
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    I am using Butch Goodwin's training methods. I have gone pretty far through the system. I am not very confident on doing FF myself and am waiting for a friend of mine to help. He has done it several times but has a very busy schedule. I want to take Gunner hunting and I go about 10-15 times a year so he isn't going to be living in the field, but I want him to be a reliable dog and so far he is...
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    FF is the basis for sooooo much that follows. I am not saying you can't get by without it, but I would not train a dog without FF
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