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Those inmates at Gitmo

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#1 ·
"Those inmates at Gitmo are a horse of another color. They are 1 non citizens, and 2 enemy combatants. American civil law and Constitutional protections are not applicable." (Bob Gutermuth)

Hey Bob, you must have missed this one when you were hunting for news articles to post!


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25117953/
 
#2 ·
So instead of giving them a place to sleep and food to eat we should train our Men and Women in the armed forces to extract the info we can get out of theise people while on the battlefield, then give them a moon roof compelements of a 9mm or 45mm taking no prisonersand that way we dont have to listen to folks like you cry for the enemy.

PS if all your going to do is tell me I spelled somthing wrong get over it. I cant spell but I can hit a target at 500 yards with open sights 9 out of 10 times.
 
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So instead of giving them a place to sleep and food to eat we should train our Men and Women in the armed forces to extract the info we can get out of theise people while on the battlefield, then give them a moon roof compelements of a 9mm or 45mm taking no prisonersand that way we dont have to listen to folks like you cry for the enemy.





Well after seeing what you Marines did with that puppy, nothing would surprise me!
 
#3 ·
Another 5-4 ruling, with the stinking liberal revisionist justices legislating from the bench. I don't care for McCain, but this is the reason the Republicans MUST win the presidential election this time around. If this court goes any farther to the left we are screwed.
 
#5 ·
Think for a minute all you who want to lock em up and throw away the key. If your distant cousin from Iraq, a civilian, was in the wrong place, at the wrong time, he could easily have been sitting in GetMo for the past 6 years. Don't you think he should have the opportunity to show that he is not guility of being a terrorist? Yes, I assume, like you, that 99% of those in GetMo are guilty and should be hung by their b**ls, but I also am sure there are at least a couple that are not guilty and are a victim of circumstances. Seems to me from what I recall of history, its the Communist and dictator ruled countries who normally lock em up without recourse. America has protested this sort of politics for years, and now it seems we are just as bad as our enemy. Bud
 
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Think for a minute all you who want to lock em up and throw away the key. If your distant cousin from Iraq, a civilian, was in the wrong place, at the wrong time, he could easily have been sitting in GetMo for the past 6 years. Don't you think he should have the opportunity to show that he is not guility of being a terrorist? Yes, I assume, like you, that 99% of those in GetMo are guilty and should be hung by their b**ls, but I also am sure there are at least a couple that are not guilty and are a victim of circumstances. Seems to me from what I recall of history, its the Communist and dictator ruled countries who normally lock em up without recourse. America has protested this sort of politics for years, and now it seems we are just as bad as our enemy. Bud
Kill em all and let god sort them out. Same as those in the wrong place at the wrong time that are on death row. Some good are goning to go down with the bad, but stuff happens.
i could care less if we torture all of them or if we simply shot them all in the head and take no prisoners. I am glad our guys are over there killing them and hope we never leave. We are establishing exactly what we need….a big old footprint right dead in the center of the spot in the world that wants nothing more to see the great satan gone from the face of the earth.

Anybody else think percent and greg are one in the same, but greg is too big of a pussy to go the extra distance that he does as percent?
 
#6 ·
If we were as bad as our enemy - they would not be alive now.

Do you not remember Daniel Pearl or Reuben Johnson?
We have not video taped them getting their throat cut / we have not video taped fire fights where enemies are killed -

what are you talking about ?
 
#7 ·
Figures, the liberal activists on the court stick there collective noses in something that doesn't even fall under their jurisdiction. For my money every one of the scumbag prisoners at Gitmo need to be shot while trying to excape.
 
#50 ·
Quite the contrary they should be released, given $100, put on a plane, given a nice dinner, a in flight movie staring George Bush given them the big apology for what the USA has down to them, while flying them back to Iraq, allow them to disembark at 30,000 ft. all while they are giving praise and thanks to Allah.
 
#8 ·
"America has protested this sort of politics for years, and now it seems we are just as bad as our enemy. Bud"

The left wing of America are the ones who have protested this and they support anything that would cripple our country and turn us into a Europe type socialist country. That's where we are headed. That's the direction the left want's us to go.

They are terrorists and they should not be afforded any of the rights a uniformed soldier deserves. They are terrorists plain and simple and should be treated as such.
The difference is we hold them in jail, they behead us. Big difference there.
 
#12 ·
Surely, no one is suggesting that, because an extremely small percentage of detainees might have been in the wrong place at the wrong time, we should allow, mandate, or offer the bureaucratic quagmire some here propose. Seems to me, we have alot of folks over yonder that unfortunately end up in the wrong place at the wrong time......but for the right cause. Good decisions are sometimes hard and distasteful to some....but right...God Bless our troops!
 
#15 ·
The last time I heard Johnny Walker Lind was fighting against the US in Afghanistan - was captured and vs being prosecuted via mitilitary tribunal - he was put into the criminal justice system & ended up getting 17 yrs vs being executed for TREASON - please explain how the US is even close to the Terrorists...

the Gitmo inmates & provided the Koran & meals and allowed to pray

then when they want more sympathy they complained to a lefty media person that someone did something to their book and there's a congressional investigation....

PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR STATEMENT
 
#22 ·
Another Liberal leftist action?

Hmmm...three of the five justices were appointed by Republican Presidents-
Kennedy-Reagan
Souter-G.W. Bush
Stevens-Ford

Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing for the court, said, "The laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times."

A powerful statement for all of us to remember.

Lisa
 
#30 ·
Another Liberal leftist action?

Hmmm...three of the five justices were appointed by Republican Presidents-
Kennedy-Reagan
Souter-G.W. Bush
Stevens-Ford
What has one got to do with the other? Souter and Stevens have ALWAYS been considered liberal and Kennedy a moderate swing at best. Take another crack at it ace.
 
#27 ·
Not trying to make a big deal out of this, but as far as the rank thing goes, A marine Sergeant, or Staff Sergeant or any higher rank containing sergeant in the title is pronounced as such in the Marine Corps it is a huge sign of disrespect to degrade the rank by only uttering a single syllable of that rank as the army does.

Maybe it is just to push Smitty's buttons but I also have earned my rank and both syllables that go along with it.
 
#28 ·
Maybe it is just to push Smitty's buttons but I also have earned my rank and both syllables that go along with it.[/QUOTE]

I, for one, appreciate the service you two, along with others on this forum, have provided...truly, THANK YOU!

I know a good Chiropractor for Greg and that vertebral problem.
 
#31 ·
I know a good Chiropractor for Greg and that vertebral problem.
Not sure I know anyone that can help with THAT vertebral problem.
 
#29 ·
You know, I have met a lot of people in real life that were real douchebags on the internet. Most of the time I have been pleasantly surprised to find out that they were misunderstood, maybe just didn't portray themselves well in written form, and are in fact pretty good people. Somehow I don't think Gregs level of douchebaggery can be overcome by leaving the keyboard behind.
Debating gun control is one thing, insulting US marines is an entirely different matter.
 
#33 ·
Hey KG, read your own byline "those who forget the past are comdemned to relive it".....Bud
 
#35 ·
Staff Sergeant...I am as big of a supporter as you have here so I would like you to listen. There are several 'asshats' (HEW's term) on this board that are being as insulting as they possibly can and using your grammar skills to do so. I don't know, nor do I care whether you failed to take advantage of educational opportunities available to you at the time or if those opportunities were never available in the first place. I know for a fact that the military has support systems in place to help any personnel advance their education should they so desire. I don't know what your MOS is but go to you educational center and look into Tuition Reimbursement programs. Don't ever be satisified with your education. The next time you decide to post, bring a dictionary along and improve your spelling to the best of your ability. KG was trying to politely tell you that these abilities will be necessary in your life whether you make a career of the military or not. It is your responsibility to improve yourself and not allow a few douchbags to dishonor the men who serve under you and beside you. Honor yourself and the men you serve with by insisting on the best of yourself and start with this one small aspect.

Believe me SSgt, I want very much for you to succeed in every aspect of your life and I cannot express my complete and utter disdain for those who disrespect the uniform due to their political agenda.
 
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#39 ·
I never really understood that whole thing about "pronouncing" the other syllable in the ranks for the Marines, of course it never ceases to amaze me how you guys get that jar over your head either!

btw - That's CAPTAIN Army Puke for you (notice the one syllable) ;) Some of my closest friends from my military days unfortunately are marines lol. I do have one question though, why is "Gunny" acceptable? Is it because the true pronunciation has 3 syllables and you knuckeldraggers have difficulty with it? just a little levity for a ridiculously argumentative thread.

Scouts out regards!
 
#40 ·
Gunnery Sergeant is a term I use all the time. But to answer why it is ok it is the higher part of his rank there fore not degrading him. But if ya call him sarge thats a 2 rank demotion. As in smittys case it would be a 1 rank demotion which I know he worked really hard to get where he is as did most of us who have got promoted in this gun club. Hope that helps.

Waiting on Percent to answer. Just figured I would type while waiting.
 
#41 ·
Love the Fox News talking points.

Using torture to gain good quality intelligence doesn't actually work. I'm sure you will counter with "but but but they did it to those people in gitmo and it worked!" how do you know it worked? Everything has been classified.

Reports were released not that long ago that the FBI didn't want any part of what was going on down there. They knew it wasn't legal and didn't want to get brought into it. People from DIA also didn't want to tuch it with a ten foot pole.

http://newsmine.org/archive/securit...nce-says-torture-creates-bad-intelligence.txt
 
#42 ·
All I will say is this percent, How do I know that some of these methods work? Well some of us are privy to these kinds of things as they happen. Human exploitation teams are used everwhere in the world that the US has an interest.

Go spend a year in a war torn country and see if you get any where with kind gentle words. If your make it back I will accept your point of view until then hold your peace sign high brother, and yes making love is more fun then war but it gets less accomplished.

Oh and as for the religous comment. Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammo.

Good day
 
#44 ·
Percent - your quoting a release from Sept of 06 - ok.

First, I would like to know what law you are referring to ? this is not a law enforcement procedure - folks in gitmo aren't US citizen's nor were captured or detained on US soil.
The Geneva convention does not apply to them either - so please tell me what law is applicable to them ?

FYI - I don't think torture is the best way to get valued information, however, we would have had a bit more intelligence if it was not Intelligence community was not gutted & walls were put up in the 90's - please see the 9-1-1 commission regards.
 
#45 ·
Lol you are too funny percent I never portrayed myself as anything.

I simply said I have spent my time in a war zone. I said there are such teams in the world. I said stop being a hippy.

Oh and as for the clearance those who have one know what they can and cannot say.
Also clearance mean nothing without the need to know.

I spoke to personal accounts, so back to what I said you can believe that we dont have a single spy in another country. Also JFK, Tupac, Biggie, and Elvis are all on an island enjoying life in witness protection.(oops that was classified)

Riddle me this smart guy are you aware of what goes on during a war when people surrender? My first hand accounts are pretty fresh in my mind, but I wondered if you could tell me how they really happened.

Go hug a tree.
 
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