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    [QUOTE=M Remington;330933]Certain guns are made to kill people and certain guns are meant for hunting. An assault weapon is made to kill people.


    Mark, I'm just guessing that I have a few years on you. I used to have similar thoughts and I did carry one of those "black guns" around for a couple of years courtesy of Uncle Sam. A co-worker of mine has owned one for quite a few years and uses it primarily for woodchucks. He's a level headed regular guy that I respect. I asked him one day why he didn't use a more "traditional" gun. His reply was simple. - "because I enjoy shooting it." Well, that was good enough for me. Just because it looks a little different doesn't mean it does anything differently. Once the antis get those banned, they turn around and say of today's traditional firearms. "these guns are just like assault rifles. They only look different." How do you establish a defense against that statement?

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    Any firearm can be used to kill a human, assuming that the person intending to shoot it can shoot straight. If one lives in a rural area, an assault rifle with a large capacity magazine may well keep him alive until the cops can get there.

    Gov Palin not fit to lead? I think that shoe fits the apostate islamacist that is the nominee of the dimocraps. He doesn't even know how many states there are in the USA. He recently made referrence to the 57?????states.

    Gov Palin is not quite as far to the Right as I am nor as far as many other conservatives are.
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    [quote=Bob Gutermuth;
    Gov Palin is not quite as far to the Right as I am nor as far as many other conservatives are.[/quote]

    Now there, finally, is a statement on this thread, that is indisputable.


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    Mr. Rem...

    Please stop refering to yourself as a conservatice from now on... no one is fooled you wolf in sheepskin.

    Anyway man, I think you've some reflecting to do. If you ban some types of firearms, the government uses that as a toehold for the next step... Did you know that London is also "firearm free" and since they passed that little law, crime (with a gun) has risen about 300% (IOW TRIPLED!) every freakin year???

    Hitler has a great quote that I keep in mind when people bring up disarming laws, etc. "If you want a gun, join the Army." Every major totalitatian (tyrannical) society disarmed it's people before a "hostile" take-over. It's just a matter of time before Australia and London follow suit. When everyone is disarmed, all it takes is a "leader" to come in and decide that destroying a certain cross section of thier society is Just and Right, and there you go... Ethnic Cleansing, Holocaust, etc.

    And all the government has to do, is slowly disarm us first. First Automatic weapons because there's no point to them except killing people (NO $H1T Sherlock!). Then Semi automatic guns (including pump action shotguns, semiauto shotguns, and pistols). Then revolvers, then Bolt action... then single action, then all firearms... Each restriction is a step toward the next.

    It's the same ideology that BHO has with the energy companies. BHO will take windfall profits (which BTW no one can define WTF a windfall profit actually IS) from the oil companies, and redistribute that profit back to the People so they can spend it on... you guessed it... fuel!!

    What's the next step!? What happens when the Gov't decides buildings cost too much and go into the contruction business, take their profits and redistribute that to the People again so they can buy better homes, etc??? They can decide that ANY industry is making too much money and take their profits and give them to someone else...

    What if he decides that dogs cost too much???? Or food costs too much??? Is he going to start an extra tax on the farmers??? What happens when the farmers get taxed too much and decide thay can't afford to continue farming? What happens when the construction company decides to stop building? What happens when the shoe company begins to send their manufactoring overseas where $100/month is really good money.

    I think you lack perpective... I don't think that I have a total view by any means, but I just think you're a little short-sighted in this matter...

    Think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legacy 6 View Post
    Mr. Rem...
    Think about it.
    Got another one for you Leg6


    http://www.rense.com/general21/wara.htm

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    M Remington please stop with the Democrat talking points. Clearly, you do not know anything about Governor Palin. I will repost my comments from a previous thread. Do yourself a favor, read them and then follow up with the articles that I have suggested.

    I would like to suggest the following articles:

    1. Baracks Obama’s Ten Point Plan to “Change” The Second Amendment. American Rifleman. September 2008 p40

    2. In Alaska, a Nuanced Record. The Wall Street Journal. Thursday September 4, 2008. p1

    What is clear is that if Obama is president with Pelosi in the House and Reed in the Senate, we will only be able to say bang-bang as the ducks fly away in our hunt tests and field trials. As for Sarah Palins belief in pro-life, there is no evidence that she would attempt to get Roe v. Wade overturned. Then there is the issue of “experience.” I suppose that being governor of Arkansas prepares you to be president while being governor of Alaska does not.

    Clearly, the liberals who include lawyers, professors, teachers, the media and pseudo hippies do not like Sarah. They all think that you and I are too stupid to govern ourselves and that we should only vote for the people that they select. As a cancer researcher that worked at a university for almost 30 years I can vouch for the fact that most university professors are ignorant about any subject outside their field of expertise and they are to arrogant to acknowledge their ignorance. This includes politics. Lawyers and the NEA have an ulterior motive for wanting a Democrat: their job security. The media all want to be royalty and they definitely think that you and I are stupid even though most of them cannot read or write above the fourth grade level. As for the pseudo hippies, they are the ones that came after most of us dropped back in and they never got a chance to express themselves.

    Given the fact that Pelosi controls the House and Reed controls the Senate, an Obama presidency would mean that our democracy would become a socialist state with government oversight of everything including what you do in the privacy of your own home. You can be sure that it would not be long before they passed a law that would jail you for expressing an opinion that was not politically correct. If you do not believe this is a possibility, just look at our neighbor to the north, Canada. In Canada, if you make any derogatory comment about homosexuality, you can be thrown in jail. So much for free speech.

    For those of you that like Barak Obama, maybe you can explain what he is saying. As far as I can tell, he, like all lawyers, is dancing on the head of a pin. In other words, confuse the jury.

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    Another old lawyers mantra: If the facts aren't on your side, pound on the law, if the law isn't on your side pound on the facts, if niether is on your side pound on the table. Hussein and Co are just pounding on the table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M Remington View Post
    Seriously, she is such a lightweight that it's scary. I can't wait until they ask her about the capital of Georgia (not the one south of the Mason Dixon) or about the new Pakistani leader. In addition to being far more extreme than the average American, she has no clue about foreign policy. She had to get a passport recently so she could visit the Alaska National Guard troops.
    Just what is an "average American"? Are You ?
    I think I am . HS grad , Honorable discharge after 4 years USMC , Divorced , 2 kids ,Gun Safe with a few open spots , work 60 hours a week , I vote , NRA life member ,DU & NWTF donor ,etc .........
    Foreign policy - Travel to distant , exotic lands ,meet exciting , unusual people from many cultures . AND kill them .
    I do not have a passport. So does this make me an "extremist lightweight" like you describe a successfull married mother ?
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    Some poor right winger seems to have lost their way, this thread belongs on the POLITICAL forum. Bud

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    Quote Originally Posted by akblackdawg View Post
    Some poor right winger seems to have lost their way, this thread belongs on the POLITICAL forum. Bud
    Original post was placed b4 Potus Place came about .And your feeble attempt to describe me is duly noted .
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