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    Quote Originally Posted by Nor_Cal_Angler View Post
    But in the end, that is exactly what it boils down to, the difference between you and I, us and them, democrat and republican.....what does your GUT tell you....

    mine says McCain Palin...08'


    Yep…McCain and Palin values are closest to mine. Let’s know forget who is running for the presidency.



    I am praying that McCain stomps Obama into a footnotes of American politics.

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    After reading this thread, I noticed that there are many opinions, not necessarily backed up by fact. I would like to suggest the following articles:

    1. Baracks Obama’s Ten Point Plan to “Change” The Second Amendment. American Rifleman. September 2008 p40

    2. In Alaska, a Nuanced Record. The Wall Street Journal. Thursday September 4, 2008. p1

    What is clear is that if Obama is president with Pelosi in the House and Reed in the Senate, we will only be able to say bang-bang as the ducks fly away in our hunt tests and field trials. As for Sarah Palins belief in pro-life, there is no evidence that she would attempt to get Roe v. Wade overturned. Then there is the issue of “experience.” I suppose that being governor of Arkansas prepares you to be president while being governor of Alaska does not.

    Clearly, the liberals who include lawyers, professors, teachers, the media and pseudo hippies do not like Sarah. They all think that you and I are too stupid to govern ourselves and that we should only vote for the people that they select. As a cancer researcher that worked at a university for almost 30 years I can vouch for the fact that most university professors are ignorant about any subject outside their field of expertise and they are to arrogant to acknowledge their ignorance. This includes politics. Lawyers and the NEA have an ulterior motive for wanting a Democrat: their job security. The media all want to be royalty and they definitely think that you and I are stupid even though most of them cannot read or write above the fourth grade level. As for the pseudo hippies, they are the ones that came after most of us dropped back in and they never got a chance to express themselves.

    Given the fact that Pelosi controls the House and Reed controls the Senate, an Obama presidency would mean that our democracy would become a socialist state with government oversight of everything including what you do in the privacy of your own home. You can be sure that it would not be long before they passed a law that would jail you for expressing an opinion that was not politically correct. If you do not believe this is a possibility, just look at our neighbor to the north, Canada. In Canada, if you make any derogatory comment about homosexuality, you can be thrown in jail. So much for free speech.

    For those of you that like Barak Obama, maybe you can explain what he is saying. As far as I can tell, he, like all lawyers, is dancing on the head of a pin. In other words, confuse the jury.

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    an Obama presidency would mean that our democracy would become a socialist state with government oversight of everything including what you do in the privacy of your own home. You can be sure that it would not be long before they passed a law that would jail you for expressing an opinion that was not politically correct.
    I'm not a democrat.

    Didn't the Patriot Act darn near do something very similar. Liberals aren't the only ones that need watching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard N View Post
    Didn't the Patriot Act darn near do something very similar. Liberals aren't the only ones that need watching.
    The Patriot Act was reauthorized in 2006 with Democrats in charge of both the House and the Senate, and is still in effect.

    There were some minor changes made, but the critics and the criticisms remained the same -- that it is a violation of civil liberties.

    Strange how we don't hear the hue and cry about it now with the Dems in charge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableLabs View Post
    The Patriot Act was reauthorized in 2006 with Democrats in charge of both the House and the Senate, and is still in effect.

    There were some minor changes made, but the critics and the criticisms remained the same -- that it is a violation of civil liberties.

    Strange how we don't hear the hue and cry about it now with the Dems in charge?
    Actually, there was MUCH "hue and cry" about it. The FISA provision/warrentless domestic spying is greatly revised and was a major sticking point. It is in its current form BECAUSE of Democrats, not enspite of the them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe S. View Post
    Actually, there was MUCH "hue and cry" about it. The FISA provision/warrentless domestic spying is greatly revised and was a major sticking point.
    Not true. Not according to its original critics in the House and Senate. They standby their original claims that it was and remains a violation of civil liberties. What was finally hammered out was between more moderate Democrats along with Republicans and the White House, and according to the original critics is merely window-dressing.

    The government is still allowed to listen to phone calls with retroactive warrants just like before.

    And so there is no confusion, I support the Patriot Act. I just don't support duplicitous politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Johnson View Post
    After reading this thread, I noticed that there are many opinions, not necessarily backed up by fact. I would like to suggest the following articles:

    1. Baracks Obama’s Ten Point Plan to “Change” The Second Amendment. American Rifleman. September 2008 p40

    2. In Alaska, a Nuanced Record. The Wall Street Journal. Thursday September 4, 2008. p1

    What is clear is that if Obama is president with Pelosi in the House and Reed in the Senate, we will only be able to say bang-bang as the ducks fly away in our hunt tests and field trials. As for Sarah Palins belief in pro-life, there is no evidence that she would attempt to get Roe v. Wade overturned. Then there is the issue of “experience.” I suppose that being governor of Arkansas prepares you to be president while being governor of Alaska does not.

    Clearly, the liberals who include lawyers, professors, teachers, the media and pseudo hippies do not like Sarah. They all think that you and I are too stupid to govern ourselves and that we should only vote for the people that they select. As a cancer researcher that worked at a university for almost 30 years I can vouch for the fact that most university professors are ignorant about any subject outside their field of expertise and they are to arrogant to acknowledge their ignorance. This includes politics. Lawyers and the NEA have an ulterior motive for wanting a Democrat: their job security. The media all want to be royalty and they definitely think that you and I are stupid even though most of them cannot read or write above the fourth grade level. As for the pseudo hippies, they are the ones that came after most of us dropped back in and they never got a chance to express themselves.

    Given the fact that Pelosi controls the House and Reed controls the Senate, an Obama presidency would mean that our democracy would become a socialist state with government oversight of everything including what you do in the privacy of your own home. You can be sure that it would not be long before they passed a law that would jail you for expressing an opinion that was not politically correct. If you do not believe this is a possibility, just look at our neighbor to the north, Canada. In Canada, if you make any derogatory comment about homosexuality, you can be thrown in jail. So much for free speech.

    For those of you that like Barak Obama, maybe you can explain what he is saying. As far as I can tell, he, like all lawyers, is dancing on the head of a pin. In other words, confuse the jury.
    Outstanding post, Paul. Huzzah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableLabs View Post
    Not true. Not according to its original critics in the House and Senate. They standby their original claims that it was and remains a violation of civil liberties. What was finally hammered out was between more moderate Democrats along with Republicans and the White House, and according to the original critics is merely window-dressing.

    The government is still allowed to listen to phone calls with retroactive warrants just like before.

    And so there is no confusion, I support the Patriot Act. I just don't support duplicitous politics.
    Perspective. As I recall the President resorted to more fear mongering to get it passed. The FISA provision was greatly altered to allow its passage.


    For the record, the government has NEVER been ALLOWED to listen to phone calls without a warrent but that didn't stop them.

    To be clear, are you suggesting that warrentless spying is or is not duplicitous politics.

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    I would bet almost anyone that the Patriot Act and the Department of Homeland Security hasn’t done much if anything. All either does is make paranoid people more paranoid and the sheep (which is most Americans) FEEL safe.



    I got a new flash…guys Kevin, Joe and myself are NOT the type of people they need to be looking for in the war on terror dealio.

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    Wow...every last word. I've read every last word.

    You guys ROCK!!!

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