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    Question Money is no object!

    Yeah, I knew that subject line would get you.

    Okay, say your dog training money was absolutely unlimited. You have a brand new 8 week old pup out of awesome field lines. You're planning to train him yourself, and you have access to awesome training grounds, but you have zero equipment right now.

    What do you buy?

    What about birds/bumpers? You have an eight week old puppy here. When do you start him on birds? What kind do you use? Frozen or fresh? Ratio of birds to bumpers? How do you use birds differently as he ages and becomes more advanced?

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    why not just hire help to throw for you then!?!?

    I sure wish my funds were unlimited..

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    If money were no object, I would;

    Hire 4 fulltime experienced bird throwers. Start with two and add two later on. Run many singles with four guns/ throwers in the field.

    Hire a successful youg dog Pro to work with your dog fulltime and help train you too.
    Also, buy Danny Farmer's Basics DVD.

    Buy a diesel Mule to haul them in.

    Shoot at least one live flier a day, Bumpers are fine for drills but I would use all ducks and pheasants after drill work is done.

    That's just a start. Get through basics and we can add what you need for AA training later.

    Good luck.
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    Birds? today

    A bunch of bumpers
    E-collar
    A blank pistol
    2 whistles and a lanyard
    A duck call
    A holding blind
    2 wingers with remotes
    Decoys: a half dozen field and a few floaters.
    A crate for the truck
    Long line – 20 or 30 footer
    A good lead and collar
    A heeling stick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Booty View Post
    If money were no object, I would;

    Hire 4 fulltime experienced bird throwers. Start with two and add two later on. Run many singles with four guns/ throwers in the field.

    Hire a successful youg dog Pro to work with your dog fulltime and help train you too.
    Also, buy Danny Farmer's Basics DVD.

    Buy a diesel Mule to haul them in.

    Shoot at least one live flier a day, Bumpers are fine for drills but I would use all ducks and pheasants after drill work is done.

    That's just a start. Get through basics and we can add what you need for AA training later.

    Good luck.
    Oh! This is a GREAT question. Booty beat me to it in terms of hiring throwers. As someone who trains alone a LOT or has to drive a long way to train with others-having "on-demand" throwers would be just the ticket.

    For the times that I want to (and sometimes I prefer training alone) I'd buy an ATV to haul my wingers around (I have 2 zingers), a couple more wingers. I'd buy another dozen of each color bumpers.

    I have someone 45 minutes away who is nice enough to keep flyers for me now & I usually buy a dozen at a time. So my dog gets a couple flyers a week & I always have nice, fresh birds in the freezer, but if money weren't an option-he'd get a couple flyers a day.

    I'm trying to write this at work and keep getting interrupted, but if I could pick one more thing it would be going with him down south for the winter and working with a good pro & a good group of amateurs.

    Rats -another interruption, but I love this question. I think all of us have a dog who makes us wonder what things would be like with an imaginary lifestyle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by subroc View Post
    Birds? today

    A bunch of bumpers
    E-collar
    A blank pistol
    2 whistles and a lanyard
    A duck call
    A holding blind
    2 wingers with remotes
    Decoys: a half dozen field and a few floaters.
    A crate for the truck
    Long line – 20 or 30 footer
    A good lead and collar
    A heeling stick
    Reading material: Dahl, DL Walters, Graham, Lardy
    Joe-

    That must be a list of things you already have???? Those are the basics and I think we all have those (I do). It's the big ticket stuff I don't have.

    Edit: Oops! I just re-read the original post and now your answer makes sense.

    Oh-from the prior list-a really, really light boat/canoe. There are some great places that I just can't get to w/out one.

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    All of the above and if money is really no object, I want my bird boys to be Sean Connery (at any age!), Harrison Ford, Will Smith and one of those Australian actor guys, Mel, Hugh, Russell, whoever is free, geez, so I really only need four bird boys, really? I have a lot of dogs, they might get tired and need backup.
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    A good psychiatrist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainsmom View Post
    Yeah, I knew that subject line would get you.

    Okay, say your dog training money was absolutely unlimited. You have a brand new 8 week old pup out of awesome field lines. You're planning to train him yourself, and you have access to awesome training grounds, but you have zero equipment right now.

    What do you buy?

    What about birds/bumpers? You have an eight week old puppy here. When do you start him on birds? What kind do you use? Frozen or fresh? Ratio of birds to bumpers? How do you use birds differently as he ages and becomes more advanced?

    Mike Lardy......I would have said Judy Aycock, but she cant be bought now if we could clone her, for my money she is the best
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    All of the above and if money is really no object, I want my bird boys to be Sean Connery (at any age!), Harrison Ford, Will Smith and one of those Australian actor guys, Mel, Hugh, Russell, whoever is free, geez, so I really only need four bird boys, really? I have a lot of dogs, they might get tired and need backup.
    Funny! I'd train with ya.
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