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    Hello all,

    I have a 9 1/2 week old puppy that has approx a 1/4" overbite and I took him to the vet yesterday for his 1st appointment. I did know he had the overbite when I picked him up, so I am prepared to deal with it. The vet told me that he would like to pull his bottom front teeth (approx 8 teeth including bottom canines). This is supposed to allow the permenant teeth to have more room to move forward and possibly line up. However, he doesn't think it will make up the entire difference on his own and we may have to put a plate in to move them forward more as his permenant teeth come in. Again, I knew this was going to be a possibility going into this, so I expected it. One more thing I should add, is that his puppy canines and one of his other front lower teeth have made little holes in the roof of his mouth which I also saw when I picked him up.

    Has anyone out there dealt with this same issue? How does it affect a puppy to not have lower teeth in the front for a couple months before his permenant teeth come in? He has already adapted to the overbite without any issues when eating, etc. so it really doesn't affect him in anyway. He still bites damn hard on my fingers or carpets or socks or anything, you get the point!!

    Is this our best option? Is it best to get them out? Does it truly allow the bottom jaw to grow more with those bottom teeth out in anyones experience?

    Would it be a better option to wait, let his baby teeth fall out, see where the permenant teeth come in and deal with it at that time? Possibly have his canines ground down at that time to avoid the roof of his mouth?

    Thanks for any help you can offer before his appointment tommorrow morning, thursday 10-16-2008.

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    Have you gotten another opinion? I don't know where you are in Wisconsin but I know there are vets that specialize in dental problems, one near me. I would consult one of those first before I did something that radical.
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    I PM'd you ErinsEdge.

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    I'm a bit confused here ... at 7 to 8 wks Golden puppies are expected to be slightly overshot. Can't say as I've ever measured by how much. We worry if the bite is scissors or undershot. The Standard of the Breed calls for an adult with a scissors bite (like humans). I would imagine that the Lab Standard is quite similar?

    The reason as explained to me is that the lower jaw grows more after this age than the lower jaw. So, we are concerned than an undershot pup at 7-8 wks will be even more undershot as the pup grows.

    That said, I have had a couple of slightly undershot pups whose adult bite was just fine ... contrary to what I had been told would happen.

    Bottom line, I think I would just wait on this & see what happens in a couple of months.

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    My thoughts too...had a chessie pup that was a little overshot and she had a good bite as an adult...

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    This overbite is not a normal overbite. His lower canines are actually in-line with his upper canines, and creating little holes in the roof of his mouth along the inside of this upper canines. That alone is not that big of a deal with his baby canines however, when the permanent teeth come in they would go much deeper into the roof of his mouth. Hope that helps clarify what is going on in his mouth.

    Again, the idea is that the permanent teeth have more room to move forward with the baby teeth out and that is what I am looking for experience on. Thanks!

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    I had a puppy that had a really bad overbite. I took him to a dental specialist when he was about 4-5 months old and we talked about the options for the future (scary!) which sound like what you're talking about. The vet also wanted to take out the one or 2 puppy teeth that were hanging on so that the adults could come in and wanted to charge me about $1000 for it. I spoke to my regular vet who took them out when I had him neutered at 6 months (this was before I knew better about neutering that young but that's another topic) and for no charge. I ended up waiting him out after that and was glad I did. He's still way overshot but his adult teeth came in and ajusted to his jaw and his bite is fine. I was never told that they puppy teeth should come in so that they jaw could grow more just that with them out of the way the adult teeth wouldn't have any problems coming in.

    Personally, I'd give him a little time to grow and see what he looks like in a couple of months and then take out the puppy teeth if they're hanging on while the adults are erupting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teeroy View Post
    Is this our best option? Is it best to get them out? Does it truly allow the bottom jaw to grow more with those bottom teeth out in anyones experience?.
    It is the best option available, the theory is that the position of the teeth impedes the browth of the mandible, there is no downside to cutting them off, I generally just cut them off at the gum line with a nail clipper, if you wait there will be no benefit

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    Eda,
    You cut them off with a nail clipper? Is the fact that they are sticking into the roof of his mouth the reason why the bottom jaw does not have a chance to grow more? Or is the fact that the teeth are there not allow the room for the adult teeth to adjust as much to the overbite?

    Would it be best to just remove the canines instead of the entire front row, or is it best to remove the entire front row?

    Thanks, keep it coming!! I'm learning!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teeroy View Post
    Eda,
    You cut them off with a nail clipper? Is the fact that they are sticking into the roof of his mouth the reason why the bottom jaw does not have a chance to grow more?
    correct, in theory when the jaw is closed the lock produced does not allow the mandible to grow, the lower canine teeth imbedded in the upper soft palate is the problem, the incisors probably have little to no influence

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