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Thread: General Douglas MacArthur this election day GDG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Shih View Post
    I have read American Caesar and more.

    Military genius, ego maniac, and in my opinion, poorly suited for the Oval Office
    Excellent Summation Regards,

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    Ted, you may be right, but I like to debate the 'what ifs'. My favorite is what if Booth had missed and Lincoln had overseen the reconstruction? that would have been a significant change in one of the most difficult periods in American history, the ramifications of which are with us today.
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    I think that this country will "Change" forever by 9am tomorrow....

    The USA will be a weaker.....

    More vulnerable .......

    Soclialst country.....

    Defense budget will be easy to cut ..... who in their right mind will sign up under a Obama "Commander and Chief." ??????

    Are the 95% of African Americans that are voting for Obama because he is black...... going to go their local Armed Forces recruiting office to sign up to serve the Messiah ...... doubt it.

    Not God Bless America .... if Obama wins.

    God HELP America .... if Obama wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Shih View Post
    I have read American Caesar and more.

    Military genius, ego maniac, and in my opinion, poorly suited for the Oval Office



    Or in my opinion military genius, confident to the bone and to good of a man to be a politician.

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    Based on American Ceasar and The Coldest Winter, my opinion of MacArthur is that he was primarily concerned with self-aggrandizement, surrounded himself with sycophants, gave no credit to subordinates, ignored the training and supplying of American troops in Korea prior to hostilities, grossly underestimated the ability of the North Korean troops and the tactical affect of the Korean terrain, disregarded reports and intelligence gathered by our troops in Korea because it did not comport with his statements that the North Koreans were of no consequence militarily, misrepresented conditions in Korea to the administration and Joint Chiefs, and brazenly flaunted the orders of the Administration and the Joint Chiefs.
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    Whatever his personality faults and he had them, MacArthur was a winner. He and Bull and Blood & Guts can be forgiven much because of their competence, and fighting ability. Had things been left to an incompetent like Monty we would be singing Deutschland uber Alles at baseball games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Shih View Post
    I have read American Caesar and more.

    Military genius, ego maniac, and in my opinion, poorly suited for the Oval Office
    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Shih View Post
    As evidenced by his conduct in the Pacific Theatre in WWII and his conduct during the Korean "police action", Douglas did not play well with others

    He did, of course, have a flair for the theatrical (witness Leyte)
    And he did know how to turn a phrase (Old Soldiers never die, they just fade away)
    And he was a military genius (Island Hopping in the Pacific and Inchon landings)

    But, in my opinion, not presidential matter
    Quote Originally Posted by FoggMoore View Post
    Based on American Ceasar and The Coldest Winter, my opinion of MacArthur is that he was primarily concerned with self-aggrandizement, surrounded himself with sycophants, gave no credit to subordinates, ignored the training and supplying of American troops in Korea prior to hostilities, grossly underestimated the ability of the North Korean troops and the tactical affect of the Korean terrain, disregarded reports and intelligence gathered by our troops in Korea because it did not comport with his statements that the North Koreans were of no consequence militarily, misrepresented conditions in Korea to the administration and Joint Chiefs, and brazenly flaunted the orders of the Administration and the Joint Chiefs.
    An overwhelming trifecta of reasons why MacArthur should not have been President. More than half of us might never had been born had he had his way in North Korea/China....not to mention that nuclear winter would be a recent memory.....

    So glad things ain't what they used to be regards,

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    Mr. Moderator, my friend Chris A.,

    Is there a way to resurrect this thread in 4 years so we can see if in fact these predictions of doom and gloom are in fact found true? Talk about no faith in the American public.....

    Looks like we're going to survive George W...... I think we'll manage whatever the outcome of today.
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    Keith, I'm not so sure of your scenario. The chi coms did not have nukes at the time, and olthough the Sovs did, I don't know if Uncle Joe would have gotten in the fight on the side of the Chi Coms. Even then he knew they were a threat to the USSR.
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