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    Exactly, Repuplicans, what do they have to do with this administration. Like I said "scare tactics" from the right. Don't forget to get back on your rocker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe S. View Post
    Other than he is a democrat and a Kennedy, what, exactly, is it that you don't like about him?
    I have heard him interviewed many times and he is an environmental whack-0. He is in favor of $10 a gallon gasoline to weed people off of fossil fuels. He wants to outlaw all SUVs and all pick-ups, and mandate 40mpg on all new cars.

    He wrote an article about global warming causing Hurricane Katrina. He wrote another article linking mercury to childhood autism. Neither have any basis in fact.

    He opposes all new oil drilling everywhere, he opposes nuclear power, he opposes clean coal, he is a huge advocate of wind power except when it is in his backyard of Nantucket Sound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Greenwood View Post
    Exactly, Repuplicans, what do they have to do with this administration. Like I said "scare tactics" from the right.
    You still don't get it!

    These names are NOT coming from Republicans! They are coming from two sources. First, they are coming from the people who are actively seeking the job, like John Kerry and Bill Richardson both want the SoS position, so they are leaking their own names. Second, they are trial balloons from within the Obama administration itself -- floating possible appointments to see if anything comes out that can pop it ahead of time instead of after the appointment.

    So you have Democrats leaking these names, and you characterize them as "scary" thinking they are coming from Republican sources! That is priceless!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe S. View Post
    Who said anything about anyone buying a Cabinet position?

    Which person on Bob's list is not qualified for a position and is therefore trying to buy a Cabinet position?

    Again, based on the list that Bob supplied, what disqualifies Caroline Kennedy from being Ambassador to the United Nations which IS NOT a Cabinet position?

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    Fox news is the one who made the comment about Oprah being able to buy any position she wanted and the rest of the list certainly seems to be a who's who of rich and famous, full of flash and cash, but short on substance. As far as Caroline Kennedy (whom I've met by the way, and she seems to be a very sweet person) You've got to be kidding. Now granted she does have a very nice pedigree and education at the *right* schools to please the limousine liberal factor, but she has zero experience. A lightweight like Obama might serve his adoring subjects better by hiring someone with actual experience in areas where he has none. Especially as Russian Pres. Medvedev welcomes him by deploying nukes on the NATO border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie R. View Post
    Especially as Russian Pres. Medvedev welcomes him by deploying nukes on the NATO border.
    Um, those are not nukes. They are missiles with conventional warheads.

    And last time I checked, Bush is still president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Um, those are not nukes. They are missiles with conventional warheads.

    And last time I checked, Bush is still president.
    Well, yes; Bush is still President, but it's not an accident those missiles were positioned when they were. They're surface to surface missiles that are capable of carrying a nuclear payload--but I guess you think Medvedev or Putin would let us inspect them before deploying?

    Mr Medvedev's speech had been postponed twice and commentators in Moscow say it is no accident that the Kremlin decided it should be delivered on the day the United States presidential election results were announced.
    They suggested that Russia was deliberately attempting to test Mr Obama's mettle.
    And then there's this:
    Ordinary Russians were sneering about the entire election, which was characterized in the frequently chauvinistic popular media as a contest between a senile grandfather and a black man of dubious credentials and intellect. American voters were portrayed as "popcorn and hamburger eating idiots" by one newspaper.
    Several tabloids incorrectly reported that the main message of Mr Obama's final campaign speech was a call on young African Americans not to let their underpants show above the waistline of the jeans.
    It's nice to know that the Russians think the next leader of the free world is a lightweight. Hence, my feeling that annointing a Kennedy society matron as Ambassador to the U.N. probably isn't a real good idea. But, that's just my little ole opinion.

    Here's the whole article, if you care to read it.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-missiles.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie R. View Post
    Well Joe, to be an advisor to a man whose governing experience consists of community activism and preening in front of the camera, you'd think he'd pick people who might actually have experience. That list makes it look like anyone with enough money can buy a Cabinet position. Wondering which position Oprah bought regards....
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableLabs View Post
    Buy a clue -- these names are not being leaked by Republicans.

    And you characterize them as "scare tactics." Priceless.
    Rolling on the floor laughing ...really now that has got to be the greatest political post of 2008.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie R. View Post
    As far as Caroline Kennedy (whom I've met by the way, and she seems to be a very sweet person) You've got to be kidding.
    No, not kidding, interested in your thought process. We never really talked about political stuff when we were training...well...not this kind of political stuff anyway.

    Now granted she does have a very nice pedigree and education at the *right* schools to please the limousine liberal factor, but she has zero experience.
    Really? All those years in the public spotlight, plus her education, plus the corporate work and she has zero experience to sit at a table or in a meeting and voice the position of the United States of America IAW the instructions of the President of the United States. One that she will be fully briefed on in advance? I think you have underestimated her ability.

    A lightweight like Obama might serve his adoring subjects better by hiring someone with actual experience in areas where he has none. Especially as Russian Pres. Medvedev welcomes him by deploying nukes on the NATO border.
    While President-elect Obama may be a lightweight to some, it is worth pointing out that 52% of those that voted found him to be the superior lightweight when compared to all other options presented.

    Russia was going to deploy those missles on the Polish border regardless of who was elected. It is not a big deal, it was an expectation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe S. View Post
    Russia was going to deploy those missles on the Polish border regardless of who was elected. It is not a big deal, it was an expectation.

    Take Care Regards,

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    Naaa, I think it's better if we all whip ourselves into a frenzy and hit the panic button.
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