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Thread: Long Hair Gene in Labs?

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    Default Long Hair Gene in Labs?

    I was browsing Craigslist today looking at all the pet ads. There was an ad for a chocolate lab and they posted a couple of bad pictures. I could see that there was a bit of feathering on the dog, and thought it looked a little like a Flatcoat. The ad specified that the dog was "full blooded" but without papers. So I contacted the guy to ask. He emailed me back saying that no, he was sure that it was full blooded (his term) and that his vet had said that the dog had the very rare long hair gene. Two of the pups in the litter had long hair, and the rest had short coats.

    Now, I know that Labs can be mismarked and come out in some different colors due to recessive genes, but I've never heard of the long haired gene. But since this guy's vet told him about it, I figured there was no use arguing. BTW, he said that he was getting rid of him because his other dog got hit by a car and lost a leg and couldn't keep up with this guy anymore.
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    Had a yellow once with long hair. Papers and all but I just figured there was a golden in the wood pile some where.

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    There is a gene that will produce a longer coat, and yes they are pure bred labs. Not really desirable, but they do exist. I will see if I can remember a reference.

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    I think I received an email about this for Labradors




    Coat Length


    While it is not a color trait, the length of a dog's coat is of interest to many. It has recently been demonstrated that in many breeds, the gene FGF5 is responsible for whether a dog has a long coat (rough or fluffy), or a short (smooth) coat. The test Vetgen offers detects the presence or absence of the recessive allele that results in long coats when present in two copies, and as such allows dogs with short coats that carry a hidden "long coat" allele to be detected.
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    One of the DNA labs tests for it in Labradors. Don't remember which one, just stuck with me b/c I thought it was an odd thing to test for.
    High Tess JH
    Cedar Swamp's Linden JH
    Cedar Swamp's Cuttin a Rug
    Cedar Swamp's Holy Terror JH (3 SH passes)
    Blackfoot's Mr Independence at Cedar Swamp JH
    Cedar Swamp's Angel in Disguise
    Cedar Swamp's Test Pilot
    Cedar Swamp's Bonanza
    Cedar Swamp's Twisted Sister

    Others have also graced our hearts...gone not forgotten.
    RC Buckshot of Seven Hickories MH
    Ceader Swamp's Deuces Wild SH
    Fallen Timber's Second Chance MH
    Ceader Swamp's Mac Millett SH
    and several others...

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    I learn something new every day . . .

    apparently you can actually test for the gene:http://www.vetdnacenter.com/canine-long-hair-test.html

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    Yep, they definitely exist (though they're uncommon)...there are a couple of well-known show dogs that have reportedly produced the "fluffy" gene in labradors. One of the get, in fact, was being shown (though I don't think it actually won anything). I remember it being a medium yellow color. I've only seen pictures.

    Interesting...and thankfully, doesn't seem to be linked to any health issues with these dogs. I'll bet most think they are a golden (yellow) or lab/golden cross (black) when they first see them. I would imagine I probably would, just because the long hair covers up most of the labrador structure.
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    Montview
    Was it Guidelines Mastercard who produced those coats? If I remember right, I remember seeing a lot of dogs in the LQ who were really heavy long coated . They had a lot of feather on the tails- not proper coat really.
    I could have the sire wrong ,but somehow that guy rings a bell with my memory....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montview View Post
    ..and thankfully, doesn't seem to be linked to any health issues with these dogs.
    Rough coat, praise the stars LOL, is not related to negative health issues. Autosomal recessive. One of the top bitches in Australia has a nick name, Sheep. She looks cute, in a different.......sort of way.
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    Here's one.
    Said to be DNA verified 100% Lab.

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