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    BHO and a good portions of the American public are going to find out the office of the Presidency has limitations…doesn’t matter if Howdy Doody is in office

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe S. View Post
    Given the time and bandwidth constraints, I could not do justice to the facets of so very many things, including due process, that I think you are missing.

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    I didn't miss much, that includes your inconsistent position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe S. View Post
    . GITMO is a great stain on the National morality. We are expected to be, and should be, better than that.
    Joe S.
    Noble thought, in theory correct but from a practical standpoint it's ridiculous. We should do, and should have done, whatever we have to do to protect American lives from people that have no qualms about carrying out the most atrocious acts imaginable.
    Never made much sense to me to fight a war with one hand tied behind your back. I did that once, never again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bill View Post
    I say close it down!!!

    Give every detainee a map of such dandy locations to choose from to re-locate:

    St.Anthony ID.; Fredricksburg, VA.; Yardley, PA. and all over the Green Mountain state.

    I agree with Joe, there is no way we can know how nice these guys could be. Without having a timely trial, they have been enduring way too much for a basic terrorist. Oops...let's see now, while I'm not an attorney, nor do I play one of TV...even I could issue one of those "get-out-for-free" cards based on the ultimate problem...no one read them their rights!

    I can hardly wait for UBL's trial. Hope his captors Mirandize him. Actually I think he's looking forward to living in a prison...can't possible be worse than the rat holes he's been forced to hide in the past 6 years...that is if you believe he's still alive.

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    [eyeroll]. are you really interpreting what myself, joe s, and bp say as all detainees at GITMO should be released? that is absurd. it's difficult to debate the issue when you make suppositions that have no relation to the topic.

    but just for fun, you can release them all here the same day we can arrest and detain everyone from Rapid City, SD and hold them for years without due process...because you're guilty.
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    If they shut down gitmo ,,I want first dibs on those dog kennels
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    Quote Originally Posted by precisionlabradors View Post
    [eyeroll]. are you really interpreting what myself, joe s, and bp say as all detainees at GITMO should be released? that is absurd. it's difficult to debate the issue when you make suppositions that have no relation to the topic.

    but just for fun, you can release them all here the same day we can arrest and detain everyone from Rapid City, SD and hold them for years without due process...because you're guilty.
    Only in your demented state could you compare the CITIZENS OF THE USA that reside in Rapid City with the terrorists in Guantanamo, and believe you are comparing apples to apples. Is there no end to your ignorance? Even for Joe, you must be heavy baggage.

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    Speaking of Gitmo...who better than Ann to set the record straight?

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    Terrorists' Restless Leg Syndrome
    by Ann Coulter (more by this author)
    Posted 11/26/2008 ET
    Updated 11/26/2008 ET


    I thought the rest of the world was going to love us if we elected B. Hussein Obama! Somebody better tell the Indian Muslims. As everyone but President-elect B. Hussein Obama's base knows, many of the Guantanamo detainees cannot be sent to their home countries, cannot be released and cannot be tried. They need to be held in some form of extra-legal limbo the rest of their lives, sort of like Phil Spector.

    And now they're Obama's problem.

    If Obama wants his detention of Islamic terrorists to be dramatically different from Bush's Guantanamo, my suggestion is that he cut off -- so to speak -- the expensive prosthetic limb procedures now being granted the detained terrorists.

    Far from being sodomized and tortured by U.S. forces -- as Obama's base has wailed for the past seven years -- the innocent scholars and philanthropists being held at Guantanamo have been given expensive, high-tech medical procedures at taxpayer expense. If we're not careful, multitudes of Muslims will be going to fight Americans in Afghanistan just so they can go to Guantanamo and get proper treatment for attention deficit disorder and erectile dysfunction.

    After being captured fighting with Taliban forces against Americans in 2001, Abdullah Massoud was sent to Guantanamo, where the one-legged terrorist was fitted with a special prosthetic leg, at a cost of $50,000-$75,000 to the U.S. taxpayer. Under the Americans With Disabilities Act, Massoud would now be able to park his car bomb in a handicapped parking space!

    No, you didn't read that wrong, because the VA won't pay for your new glasses. I said $75,000. I would have gone with hanging at sunrise, but what do I know?

    Upon his release in March 2004, Massoud hippity-hopped back to Afghanistan and quickly resumed his war against the U.S. Aided by his new artificial leg, just months later, in October 2004, Massoud masterminded the kidnapping of two Chinese engineers in Pakistan working on the Gomal Zam Dam project.

    This proved, to me at least, that people with disabilities can do anything they put their minds to. Way to go, you plucky extremist!

    Massoud said he had nothing against the Chinese but wanted to embarrass Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf for cooperating with the Americans. You know, the Americans who had just footed -- you should pardon the expression -- a $75,000 bill for his prosthetic leg.

    Pakistani forces stormed Massoud's hideout, killing all the kidnappers, including Massoud. Only one of the Chinese engineers was rescued alive.

    As a result of the kidnapping, the Chinese pulled all 100 engineers and dam workers out of Pakistan, and work on the dam ceased. This was bad news for the people of Pakistan -- but good news for the endangered Pakistani snail darter!

    In none of the news accounts I read of Massoud's return to jihad after his release from Guantanamo is there any mention of the fact that his prosthetic leg was acquired in Guantanamo, courtesy of American taxpayers after he was captured trying to kill Americans on the battlefield in Afghanistan.

    News about the prosthetic leg might interfere with stories of the innocent aid workers being held captive at Guantanamo in George Bush's AmeriKKKa.

    To the contrary, although Massoud's swashbuckling reputation as a jihadist with a prosthetic leg appears in many news items, where he got that leg is almost purposely hidden -- even lied about.

    "Abdullah Massoud ... had earned both sympathy and reverence for his time in Guantanamo Bay. ... Upon his release, he made it home to Waziristan and resumed his war against the U.S. With his long hair, his prosthetic limb and impassioned speeches, he quickly became a charismatic inspiration to Waziristan's youth." -- The New York Times

    He's not a one-legged terrorist -- he's a freedom fighter living with a disability. I think we could all learn something about courage from this man.

    "He lost his leg in a landmine explosion a few days before the fall of Kabul to the Taliban in September 1996. It didn't dampen his enthusiasm as a fighter and he got himself an artificial leg later, says Yusufzai." -- The Indo-Asian News Service

    Where? At COSTCO?

    "The 29-year-old Massoud, who lost his left leg in a landmine explosion while fighting alongside the Taliban, often used to ride a horse or camel because his disability made it painful for him to walk long distances in hilly areas." -- BBC Monitoring South Asia

    Side-saddle, I'm guessing. And you just know those caves along the Afghan-Pakistan border aren't wheelchair accessible.

    "He was educated in Peshawar and was treated in Karachi after his left leg was blown up in a landmine explosion in the Wreshmin Tangi gorge near Kabul in September 1996. He now walks with an artificial leg specifically made for him in Karachi." -- Gulf News (United Arab Emirates)

    Karachi? Hey, how do I get into this guy's HMO?

    They can't lick leprosy in Karachi, but the Gulf News tells us Massoud got his artificial leg at one of their specialty hospitals.

    Anyone who thinks the Guantanamo detainees can be released without consequence doesn't have a leg to stand on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bill View Post
    Only in your demented state could you compare the CITIZENS OF THE USA that reside in Rapid City with the terrorists in Guantanamo, and believe you are comparing apples to apples. Is there no end to your ignorance? Even for Joe, you must be heavy baggage.

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    yesss! a smackdown from UB. at least you responded this time.

    now to the issue-prove that you're not a terrorist. oh wait.....no due process. off to GITMO. as for Joe, let him talk for himself.

    You still haven't even responded to why you feel due process is unfit for the prisoners at GITMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bill View Post

    Anyone who thinks the Guantanamo detainees can be released without consequence doesn't have a leg to stand on.
    Anyone who believes we can throw due process out the window because we know the accused is guilty deserves to live without due process for himself or herself. With respect to Massoud, the question should be who released him and why. His release was decided by the military, not ordered by any court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bill View Post
    Only in your demented state could you compare the CITIZENS OF THE USA that reside in Rapid City with the terrorists in Guantanamo, and believe you are comparing apples to apples. Is there no end to your ignorance? Even for Joe, you must be heavy baggage.

    UB
    To imprison people without trial is so un-American. What are we afraid of? Why aren't these people entitled to the rights we would expect if we were arrested in another country? We don't release anyone UNLESS they are acquitted of the charges under which they were arrested.

    As far as the Ann Coulter article. . .the woman has no credibility. She has proven she is mentally unbalanced.

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