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    Kind of like William Jefferson Clinton?

    As President Bill Clinton used his power under the U.S. Constitution to grant pardons and clemency to 456 people

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_Clinton


    when compared to GWB:

    PresidentGeorge W. Bush had issued 171 presidential pardons to people who have served their entire sentence, and has commuted in addition the sentences of eight people.[1][2][3]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_George_W._Bush

    Then take a look at the crimes they had commited and YOU decide which one was more egregious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad hunter View Post
    Bush did not invent this, many have done it before him and they will do it after him. And when Obama is on his way out of Office, he will do it as well. He may not pardon Blago, but he will pardon others just as dirty as Blago.
    Yes, but Bush is pardoning and evoking executive prevledge to people to cover his own azz for crimes he may or may not have commited.

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    Names and crimes please?

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    Names like Carl Rove and Gonzalez come to mind. Exposing a CIA agent and a little conterversy about hiring of lawyers in a political battle comes to mind as does illegal wire taps, illegal war ect. Just little things.

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    Ohhhhh! Little things!


    Little things like crimes actually being committed and those accused actually having due process in a court of law? And the presidenyt actually pardoning them of being convicted of crimes. Those little things???


    Ain't those details a bitch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaBayDog View Post
    Someone in this thread already tried to go there. If the Obama team was the hero in this they would be shouting it from the rooftops not evading questioning and now outright lying. Obama stated he NEVER talked to the Governor nor did anyone on his team. Rahm is on tape at least 6 times talking with him. Not even in office yet and I bet we here the "it depends on what the definition of 'is' is" defense. The feds have already said the taps were for an ongoing investigation and they fell into this corruption. Nice try though, your guys is in deep better get the waders out.
    You are, of course, wrong as usual. Keep listening to Rush, though, he will keep you properly misinformed.

    - Obama did NOT state he NEVER talked to the governor, nor did anyone on his team. He has, in fact, said that they are reviewing all contacts, and will disclose all of them. What he did say was that there was never any deal-making going on, and that he himself did not speak with the Governor.
    - Rahm obviously spoke with the Governor's staff, and that is likely when the governor's staff tried to 'make a deal'. As you correctly note, they appear to have him on some of the tapes, so it will all come out eventually. I know it's fun to speculate, though -- and it's much more satisfying because you can just make stuff up and not have to worry about the truth.
    - The fact that they aren't 'shouting from the rooftops' probably has something to do with the fact that this is an ongoing investigation (and one in which Rahm will probably be called to testify at some point). I know the Bush/Rove admin would have 'leaked' a book's worth of information on it if it were them, but thankfully the Obama administration looks to be more discreet (and competent).

    Keep trying, though. It's always fun to see you channeling Rush's turd of wisdom.
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    Here's a little more info for you on the contacts between Emmanual and the Governor's camp, and the timing of the charges. Of course, since it doesn't support your conspiracy theory, feel free to discount it as lies from the 'liberal media' types over at the Wall Street Journal.


    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/1...of-their-case/

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1229...gn2008_mostpop
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    Since Jesse Jackson Jr was the national co-chair of the 'messiah's' electiion committee, and has been identified as candidate #5, this scandal may well stick to the incoming comrade POTUS. It certainly smells like a lot of the things he has been and involved in and denied that are Chicago politics as usual: like launching his political career in Bill Ayres house, buying a house with Rezko's assistance, and of course Rev Wright(sat in that guys church for 20 yrs and never heard any of the stuff that we saw and heard Wright say in the video clips). If Comrade Obama isn't impeached or forced to resign in the next four yrs he will be keeping special prosecutors busy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Gutermuth View Post
    Since Jesse Jackson Jr was the national co-chair of the 'messiah's' electiion committee, and has been identified as candidate #5, this scandal may well stick to the incoming comrade POTUS. It certainly smells like a lot of the things he has been and involved in and denied that are Chicago politics as usual: like launching his political career in Bill Ayres house, buying a house with Rezko's assistance, and of course Rev Wright(sat in that guys church for 20 yrs and never heard any of the stuff that we saw and heard Wright say in the video clips). If Comrade Obama isn't impeached or forced to resign in the next four yrs he will be keeping special prosecutors busy.
    Bah! All coincidence, Obama is just constantly in the wrong place with the wrong person at the right time. *Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! The Great OZ(..er liberal media) has spoken!*
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    Quote Originally Posted by backpasture View Post
    Here's a little more info for you on the contacts between Emmanual and the Governor's camp, and the timing of the charges. Of course, since it doesn't support your conspiracy theory, feel free to discount it as lies from the 'liberal media' types over at the Wall Street Journal.


    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/1...of-their-case/

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1229...gn2008_mostpop

    Wow, interesting, so the Chicago Tribune is the one who saved JJ Jr.'s bacon. That's a big surprise since they also fired editors that were critical to Blago in the first place. Nice Town.

    I actually believe BHO didn't know about any of this, its just that easy to believe he's completely clueless.

    Scandal #2 is already brewing with his Commerce Secretary pick. That's a good position to have a bribe taker in

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