I need to Visually and Mentally understand all of this, so some questions might not even make sence..
an example ...teaching pup to sit.
For positive...when you say GIVE something, is that a treat, toy or praise? and when you say ADD something, does that mean add a touch (gently push butt onto ground, or add pressure with the collar later on?)to make puppy sit? Is the GIVE something "always" for Reinforcement and is the ADD something "always" for Punishment or would it be for reinforcement as well...ex. Add pressure? Example two sort of reads that the pushing down of the dogs butt would be +ve Punishment. Is it a punishment, because we are assuming at this point the puppy already knows what sit is? Is it all positive reinforcement or positive punishment because we are trying to Teach the dog to do positive or good things? (sit when told, here when called, stop on the whistle...etc.) When a pup is bieng taught to sit, don't we end up reinforcing and punishing at the same time.....touch puppys bum at the same time as putting a cookie in front of pups nose and lifting it up?
For the negative.....to remove or take away. Do we only apply Negative pressure or punishment AFTER the dog knows a given command or action (sit, here etc)? When you say that if something is taken away from the dog and behaviour increases, does this mean the dogs behaviour increases for better or worse? I am assuming that what we would want to take away from the dog to make the behaviour better, more solid or increase, would be the pressure? Is this ALWAYS negative reinforcement? When you say when the dogs behaviour decreases, do you mean that the dog behaviour or actions are getting worse? We take something away...Negative punishment...mabey no treat, no bird, no praise???
I'm sure I am out to lunch here, but because I can't physically see what you mean, I have to try and interpret it here with words and more examples from any of you folks would sure make a better picture.
What about Collar Conditioning.
Dog knows sit and here. Now we are adding pressure to reinforce sit and here and make it more solid by saying sit "nick" sit, or Here ' nick' Here is this positive reinforcement because we have added some pressure? or is it positive punishment???
What would be negative reinforcement and what would be negative punishment?
I'll stop now, because I'm gonna confuse myself as well. I really appreciate all and ANY input and I realize everyone has their own methods and opinions, I just would really like to better understand the positive VS negative reinforcement and punishments.
I want to better understand my dogs, I want to be able to make changes for the better and would also like my dogs to better understand me.
thanks and sorry for the long post.