I was talking a few years back to a guy who did obedience in a big way. I told him how we used indirect pressure. He said, it was giving the dog something else to do and obedience types did it on a regular basis. I wish I had asked him to give me a couple of examples but I think we had another beer and talked about other trainers instead.
You really gotta be careful about how high a pedestal you put your method, your accomplishments, your dog on. There's usually someone who's done more, somewhere. And they may have used a different method than you did! Chris Atkinson 2013
get your dog out and TRAIN! caryalsobrook 2013