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    Presidential Pardon

    What do we think of (from the article) "Bush's decision to commute the sentences of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean?"

    Is this a good use of the power of the President to pardon?

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

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    I find the huge difference in pardon's by Bush in comparison to the last 5 presidents to be interesting.

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    I'm certainly in favor in this case. While I wasn't privy to all the circumstances surrounding their conviction, it seems to me, based on what I did read about, these two were exercising their duty. To have the criminal win is wrong, anyway it's presented.

    TV is doing an excellant job of dumbing down the American public when it comes to police work. Why the hell bother to drawn a pistol anymore? It seldom gets used, even in a chase. Can't they learn to hit someone in the azz? Oh that's right, those allow the criminal to win in court. Then do the Denny Crane thing and kneecap 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun_Dog2002 View Post
    I find the huge difference in pardon's by Bush in comparison to the last 5 presidents to be interesting.

    /Paul

    Obviously President Clinton’s pardon of Marc Rich is the poster child for corruption when using presidential pardons. Money changed hands and a pardon was granted.

    This pardon is righting a wrong, at least in my estimation.

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    I am in agreement with all of the posts under this thread. I agree with Subroc's contention that Marc Rich's pardon epitomized corruption.

    But, while we're bashing presidents, Bush's choice to commute the sentence of Scooter Libby falls into the corruption category. Although no money changed hands, Scooter Libby broke the law and should have paid the price.

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    About time W did something with them.

    The Federal Prosecutors went to Mexico, got the drug runner, gave him a free ride back to the US to testify against the border agents. However, it didn't help their case that they didn't report the shooting.

    Clinton's pardon of convicted terrorists was AWESOME...all got to home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M Remington View Post
    I am in agreement with all of the posts under this thread. I agree with Subroc's contention that Marc Rich's pardon epitomized corruption.

    But, while we're bashing presidents, Bush's choice to commute the sentence of Scooter Libby falls into the corruption category. Although no money changed hands, Scooter Libby broke the law and should have paid the price.

    Which law did Scooter Libby break? His supposed crime came after the investigation was already underway and the prosecutor already knew that Richard Armatige was the leaker. Even though the culprit was know he continued to question people until one of them slipped and he could make bogus charges stick. A good prosecutor could question you, I , or anyone else on what they had for dinner for the last week and get you to slip up and "perjure" yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaBayDog View Post
    Which law did Scooter Libby break?...
    The law that requires you to remember everything!

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    Quote Originally Posted by subroc View Post
    The law that requires you to remember everything!

    Scooter Libby was charged when maybe the finger might have been pointed higher. The quail shooter that shot his hunting partner. Nixon's 18 minute gap in his tapes is why he couldn't remember. It's not a crime when the President does it". (Frost/Nixon movie)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Halstead View Post
    Scooter Libby was charged when maybe the finger might have been pointed higher.
    Try Elsewhere - Wasn't the original leaker, Richard Armitage, one of their own?
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