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    This didn't involve much research.. (sourced via www.snopes.com )

    http://isaacs.newsvine.com/_news/200...ts-not-exactly

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    "In answer to your inquiry:
    The American Legion, as it has on every inauguration evening since 1953, hosted the Salute to Heroes Inaugural Banquet & Ball on January 20th. The quadrennial event is co-sponsored with fourteen veterans service and military service organizations and honors recipients of the Medal of Honor. Forty-seven of these heroes attended this year’s event which was held in the Renaissance Washington DC Hotel.
    President Obama was invited but did not attend. Vice-President Joe Biden did appear, however, and was very warmly received. The new President’s absence was understandable considering the unprecedented logistical challenges presented by the vastly increased number of visitors to this inauguration and the necessary attendant security measures. The American Legion, as an organization, does not feel offended or “snubbed.”
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    Washington, DC 20006
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    What is also sad is that 4 short years ago the liberal media chastised Bush and his
    "rich Republicans" for spending 42 million dollars on his inaugeration ,but BHO spends $120 million and its ok .
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    So-o-o-o --

    Biden did attend; There was an unprecedented number of balls for Obama to attend; Obama invited some CMH winners to another ball, The American Legion is understanding and forgiving,

    -- But it still happened. Obama did not attend.
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    He probably feels uncomfortable around U S Military vets and a disdain for the military in general.


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    The head of the Legion is required, as a politician, to say he and the members of the legion are not offended. As a 12 year member of the Legion, I am pissed. Pissed that everything this guy does is okey, and everything that repub's do is not. Stop justifing inabilities and call a spade a spade. He wasn't there he was the first to not show up and that make him a jerk. And for those that want to defend him, let me know how you feel when he passes the new ammo bill on the table that would break most ammo companies and raise the price of ammo out of the reach of the rest of us. If they can't take away your guns they'll take away your ammo, problem solved for them. I'm sick of them making policy that only helps them. We will bail out the fat cat bankers and auto mfgs, but we'll let the little guy rot, and work his a** off to support all of these bailouts and welfare programs. To finalize, get back to me in 4 years and let me know if you think he is the next coming of Jesus or Satin. Let his record stand for itself. Maybe we'll all get lucky and he'll end up like the rest of his crooked Illinios political buddies and be politly escourted from office
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    Sure is an interesting spin (but wrong) to say he is the first President to honor Medal of Honor recepients that way.

    Couple of things to correct - First it is not the CMH it is the Medal of Honor, it is awarded by the Commander in Chief not Congress. Second nobody wins it. It is not a prize, it is earned through sacrifice and intrepidity that go beyond what anyone could imagine. If you doubt it look up any of the citations. The receipients of the Medal of Honor take great offense to being called "winners". In their words "You might win the Super Bowl but you do not win the Medal of Honor". I escorted several during my military career, an honor with memories I will carry with me forever.

    Bottom line, the new President had a chance to prove he appeciates Veterans who gave more than he will ever understand and he blew it. Make any excuse for him you want but the proof is in his actions or lack thereof. There were 48 Medal of Honor receipients that attended the Salute to Heroes Inaugural Ball (see the link below), he might have slighted them but no doubt they enjoyed the company of those who did honor them that night.

    There are only 98 surviving recepients of the Medal of Honor as of today, the youngest is 58 years old and many are World War II Veterans. Unfortunately four years from now there will be even fewer. We can only hope in four years there will be a President that understands sacrifice and service and will honor the heroes at the 2013 Salute to Heroes Inaugural Ball.

    BTW the first stop for President George W. Bush on the Ball circuit in 2005 - The Salute to Heroes Inaugural Ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleHaul View Post
    He didn't really do that. True, he did not go to the American Legion's ball--the reason given was that it is not an official ball of the PIC. However, he did invite the CMH winners to the Commander in Chief ball where he got his photo op done. So, you could argue that he is the first President since DDE to honor CMH winners in this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kelder View Post
    What is also sad is that 4 short years ago the liberal media chastised Bush and his
    "rich Republicans" for spending 42 million dollars on his inaugeration ,but BHO spends $120 million and its ok .
    Just so we're clear. The $42 million number was the cost of the parties themselves under Bush and was paid for by contributions, not taxpayers. Another $100 million or so was paid for security by taxpayers. Bush's inauguration was unusual because most Presidents play down their second inaugural while Bush spent much more. About 300,000 attended, or 100,000 fewer than attended his first. There was very little criticism at that time and most of that stemmed from a single Congressmen.

    The comparable number for Obama is about $45 million for the parties themselves, a cost that was also paid by contributors. The final bill for security is not yet known but should be higher than for Bush since there were more than five times more people attending (1.5 - 2 million). There was a lot of criticism of the costs of Obama's inauguration -- mostly in the form of Conservative complaints that the media were not complaining about it. MSNBC, which typically fawns over Obama as much as Fox fawned over Bush, was the source of the mistaken comparison of the party-only cost for Bush's inauguration to the party plus security cost for Obama. While this error was quickly corrected in the mainstream media, the same bloggers complaining about liberal bias have continued to use the erroneous numbers.

    There were 60 inaugural balls, including 10 "official" balls sponsored by the campaign. Six of these ten were located in a single building to make security easier. My understanding, although I only have one source and it may be wrong, is that the Medal of Honor recipients were among the invitees to the Commander in Chief's ball which Obama attended. He did not attend the MOH Hero's Ball in part because it was located in the 16 story Renassance Hotel which presented special security problems. He also did not attend an Illinois event in his honor in the same hotel. He did send Biden -- apparently no one wants to kill him. He also spent a long time, relatively speaking, at the CIC Ball including his video conference conversation with soldiers stationed in Afghanistan. I don't know how anyone can find a basis for calling him disrespectful of the military based on his record in inauguration day.

    There are plenty of real issues and areas for disagreement between conservatives and the new President. This issue is plain stupid.
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    Kind of interesting in that since 1953 no other President has had this problem.

    "Plain stupid" - the links below might convince you differently, the second link has the citations of the 98 surviving:

    http://www.history.army.mil/moh.html

    http://www.cmohs.org/recipients/living_recips.htm

    He did not attend the MOH Hero's Ball in part because it was located in the 16 story Renassance Hotel which presented special security problems. He also did not attend an Illinois event in his honor in the same hotel. He did send Biden -- apparently no one wants to kill him. He also spent a long time, relatively speaking, at the CIC Ball including his video conference conversation with soldiers stationed in Afghanistan. I don't know how anyone can find a basis for calling him disrespectful of the military based on his record in inauguration day.

    There are plenty of real issues and areas for disagreement between conservatives and the new President. This issue is plain stupid.[/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCreek View Post
    Kind of interesting in that since 1953 no other President has had this problem.

    "Plain stupid" - the links below might convince you differently, the second link has the citations of the 98 surviving:

    http://www.history.army.mil/moh.html

    http://www.cmohs.org/recipients/living_recips.htm
    I've read the citations and still say this issue is plain stupid. BTW, I suspect the secret service would be the first to say that "since 1953 no other President has had" a similar security problem.

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    While this issue makes a good headline, my question is who has a better track record of supporting veterans health care and supporting veterans.

    This report is quite interesting with all kind of references too.
    http://www.vetpac.org/index2.php?opt...o_pdf=1&id=103

    There is talking the talk and making the dance and then there is walking the walk to take action to support veterans. Time will tell.

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