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    Triple - Long center bird down first ( left to right) - shorter right hand bird down second (right to left) - Left hand bird down last (right to left - Flyer)
    Dog leaves line toward left hand bird, runs past bird and goes out and picks up long center bird. Dog returns on line he went on, stops at left hand bird and picks it up - now dog has both birds and is heading back to line. Dog carries both birds about 50 yards and drops one of the birds and returns with one bird. Did the dog commit a Fault? If so, what fault
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    ....yes.....
    "So what is big is not always the Trout nor the Deer but the chance, the being there. And what is full is not necessarily the creel nor the freezer, but the memory." ~ Aldo Leopold

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    maybe more than 1
    "So what is big is not always the Trout nor the Deer but the chance, the being there. And what is full is not necessarily the creel nor the freezer, but the memory." ~ Aldo Leopold

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    Fred your joking. Tell me your joking!! For real!!
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    No joke - in that scenario was a fault committed and if so what fault?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Warf View Post
    SCENARIO

    Triple - Long center bird down first ( left to right) - shorter right hand bird down second (right to left) - Left hand bird down last (right to left - Flyer)
    Dog leaves line toward left hand bird, runs past bird and goes out and picks up long center bird. Dog returns on line he went on, stops at left hand bird and picks it up - now dog has both birds and is heading back to line. Dog carries both birds about 50 yards and drops one of the birds and returns with one bird. Did the dog commit a Fault? If so, what fault
    I don't know much about AKC but I think on a triple if the dog chooses to pick up two birds he must pick up all three at once and deliver all to hand or its a fault.

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    Was the bird the dog returned with the flyer or the dead bird?

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    Tim - good question - not 100% sure from our distance

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    Fred,

    when you say the dog "runs past bird" on the left, was there any indication of a hunt or acknowledgement of the bird, of was it just moving along to the long bird (i.e. could it be called as switching)?
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    Dog did not slow down on the first bird - on the return the dog stood over both birds picking one up then the other until the dog had both birds.

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