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    Quote Originally Posted by subroc View Post
    chuckling

    Isn't the quote: "in the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king?

    I didn't know this quote had been or needed to be updated to a PC version.

    Thanks
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    You know, I've never realized the abject joy of fishing with a top-water plug until now...

    Non-Myopic Regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe S. View Post
    chuckling

    You know, I've never realized the abject joy of fishing with a top-water plug until now...

    Non-Myopic Regards,

    Joe S.
    If that was your intention, I am glad to be the source of the joy, however, I expect, in reality, you think in humorless PC terms and didn't even realize that you had changed the wording.

    Either way enjoy your abject joy.

    BTW Joe, welcome back, you were missed
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    Article [I.]
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    Article [II.]
    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subroc View Post


    What reasonable belief?


    Well let's see, I believe that the administration has admitted waterboarding. Waterboarding is torture. Torture is not allowed according to treaties we have signed and it is also prohibited by the Geneva Convention.

    As for the Scooter Libby issue, Joe S. said much better than I ever could.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe S. View Post
    There is a school of thought that suggests a correlation between the rise in Islamic Fundamentalism and the lack of a U.S. military response following the Marine Barracks Bombing in 1983. This, coupled with our desire to turn a blind eye (male, female, black, yellow, white, green, brown or blue) towards what the Pakistan nuclear program was doing because we needed them to help get supplies to UBL when he was on the CIA payroll fighting Soviets will give us all pause for thought in the coming years. Again, people did what they thought they needed to do at the time...

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    Joe S.

    The Islamic Fundamentalist problem is as old as Islam…just goes generations with raising its ugly head so it appears to be all new but is just the same old problem with a nutty religion.
    The UBL problem falls into the “my enemy’s enemy is my friend” category …lot of those people turn out to be future enemies…look at Iran and Iraq….we could list these all day long.

    It is what it is brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Johndrow View Post
    The Islamic Fundamentalist problem is as old as Islam…just goes generations with raising its ugly head so it appears to be all new but is just the same old problem with a nutty religion.
    Agree. I should/could have phrased that better.

    I've recently finished reading Jefferson's War: America's First War on Terror 1801-1805 (http://www.amazon.com/Jeffersons-War-Americas-Terror-1801-1805/dp/0786712325) and if you haven't read it, I would recommend it. I thought the conditions and terms reflected some of what we are seeing today.

    The UBL problem falls into the “my enemy’s enemy is my friend” category …lot of those people turn out to be future enemies…look at Iran and Iraq….we could list these all day long.
    True. What we lack is a crystal to see or the balls to do what needs to be done and then forecast those actions across the future.

    If we chose to take the Cives Romani position, which I have no problem with, then we need to be true to that position no matter the cost. As we both know, cost in terms of blood and not always money has GENERALLY been the deciding factor when a democracy goes to war.

    It is what it is brother
    True dat' as my son would say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subroc View Post
    If that was your intention, I am glad to be the source of the joy, however, I expect, in reality, you think in humorless PC terms and didn't even realize that you had changed the wording.
    Yeah, I'd NEVER be witty or clever enough to have thought about that in advance. I've also forgotten how often the word "humorless" is used to describe me...it is really a lot. I've asked around and been told I'm a pretty unfunny guy.

    Either way enjoy your abject joy.
    I enjoy Joy, abject or not, at every possible opportunity.

    BTW Joe, welcome back,
    Thanks. It was a karma thing that led me back but I think I over analyzed that and screwed it up. So, the karma thing is leading me away again...but, you know, I had to fire off a couple of quick posts. Some times some things are just too much fun and too easy to resist.

    you were missed
    Kind of you to suggest but I think the jury is still way, way, way out on that.

    Kind Regards,

    Joe S.
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    Off Topic

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    I have one question that isn't related to this issue at all. I don't want to debate it really just guage your opinion on the subject. Did Bill Clinton sell a pardon to Marc Rich?

    Just a yes or no answer.

    If you want to send a PM, that would be OK.
    subroc

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    Article [II.]
    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by subroc
    If that was your intention, I am glad to be the source of the joy, however, I expect, in reality, you think in humorless PC terms and didn't even realize that you had changed the wording.

    Yeah, I'd NEVER be witty or clever enough to have thought about that in advance. I've also forgotten how often the word "humorless" is used to describe me...it is really a lot. I've asked around and been told I'm a pretty unfunny guy.

    Quote:
    Either way enjoy your abject joy.
    I enjoy Joy, abject or not, at every possible opportunity.

    Quote:
    BTW Joe, welcome back,
    Thanks. It was a karma thing that led me back but I think I over analyzed that and screwed it up. So, the karma thing is leading me away again...but, you know, I had to fire off a couple of quick posts. Some times some things are just too much fun and too easy to resist.

    Quote:
    you were missed
    Kind of you to suggest but I think the jury is still way, way, way out on that.

    Kind Regards,

    Joe S.

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    Greetings from the dropzone,

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    Pelosi is a frickin nut case!!
    "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson

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