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    Evan, can the dog see the destination pile in this drill? I assume NOT from the DVD but that's just the mother of all screw ups.
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    Darrin,

    Are your piles on pattern blinds visible?
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    Is that your sarcastic way of saying no?
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    They are orange at 125 yards in this Four Phase Drill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinGreene View Post
    Evan, can the dog see the destination pile in this drill? I assume NOT from the DVD but that's just the mother of all screw ups.
    What is "just the mother of all screw ups?" The DVD? The drill itself? The fact that it appears that the dog cannot see the pile?
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    MOASU = assuming

    Not Evan, but when we recently did 4 phase the pile was at 100 yds and flagged at 20, 40 etc per vol.1
    Pup couldn't see the pile from the line due to snow but as it had been identified by throwing a bumper in prior, and then backing up, he knew where it was.
    When I first saw this drill at the Kalispell seminar, the pile was clearly visble.
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    What is "just the mother of all screw ups?"
    I assume, "assuming."

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    Assuming has been known to make an ASS out of U and ME.

    My dog will run right over a small orange bumper at times so I can probably do it either way.

    I was advised to do this as part of a three legged pattern but I'm having a location problem with getting that set up so I'm going to use the four phase drill instead.

    The way this dog GOES and handles I have little need for pattern blinds anyway, except to teach him to run blinds in conjunction with marks.

    Just wondering what Evan's advice was since I got the drill from his material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinGreene View Post
    Evan, can the dog see the destination pile in this drill? I assume NOT from the DVD but that's just the mother of all screw ups.
    Depends on where you're running it. If there is little or no cover, and/or the terrain lightly rolls , then it will likely be visible.

    I use white bumpers, since I don't want an mistakes about going to the pile. It is the concept presentation that makes the drill useful, not the pile as some sort of blind. I set the pile at 100 yards, as nearly all my Basic and Transition drills are based on.

    Avoid complicated terrain and cover.

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    Got it, and a better idea of the concept as well. THANKS Evan!

    Now where do I get a kid to throw the mark for 6 weeks?

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