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    OK Pat, you're right...poor choice of words. What I should have said is that the former administration did a laudable job of putting plans and infrastructure in place for just such an event.

    Cory, you're right too, the sky is not falling. The appearance of novel influenza virus is significant because it opens yet another door for a pandemic to emerge whether this one does now, or not. This strain has met the criteria of a pandemic capable virus. But, that doesn't mean it will cause a pandemic.

    As far as virulence goes, it's too early to calculate a reliable case fatality ratio, but the virus has demonstrated the ability to kill healthy young adults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snicklefritz View Post
    ... But, your statement about
    1. this going on for years and
    2. nothing being done is not correct..
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    Check out the site below (even though it pains me that the former administration accomplished this much):
    1. Fwiw, I merely agreed with YOU in that "That's not new. Knowledgeable people have known this would happen for at leat 10 years."
    2. "still practically nothing has been done" All the preparations don't help much if you don't implement them. At the time, all the Center for Disease "Control" had done was but throw up it's hands and say "it's too late, it's out of control" & tell people to "wash their hands" Yes, they DID send 8 responders to the border area. DHS had only declared an emergency to make anti-viral meds available. Imo, that's practically nothing and I stand by my statement at the time.

    Now, surprise, surprise, "The United States launched border screening for swine flu exposure Monday morning" Richard Vesser, acting head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, revealed that U.S. authorities were starting to undertake "passive screening" at its borders. He reported that U.S. border officials would be "asking people about fever and illness, looking for people who are ill."
    Officials along the U.S.-Mexico border were asking health care providers to take respiratory samples from patients who appear to have the flu. Travelers were being asked if they visited flu-stricken areas.
    Some schools in New York City, Texas, California and Ohio also were closing after students were found or suspected to have the flu.
    So maybe somebody has actually activating an Incident Command Structure now & IS realizing that we DO need to at least make an effort to control the source.
    "But we honestly don't know. We don't know enough yet about how this virus operates. More work needs to be done."said Peter Cordingley, a WHO spokesman, who said it was spreading rapidly in Mexico and the southern United States.

    How about the State Dept advising against travel to Mexico?
    How about Customs & Immigration announcing a passport database screening for ALL arrivals from Mexico in the last 2 weeks?
    How about a National Guard activation in ALL southern border states to augment the Border Service, including possible Predator surveillance flights?
    How about DHS announcing the etsablishment of Tamiflu staging locations?

    C'mon the 1st two are "no-brainers", the others just logic, imo.
    Proactive is the key word!

    3. It actually PAINS you to admit the Bush Administration did something positive? Amazing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snicklefritz View Post
    OK Pat, you're right...poor choice of words. What I should have said is that the former administration did a laudable job of putting plans and infrastructure in place for just such an event.

    Cory, you're right too, the sky is not falling. The appearance of novel influenza virus is significant because it opens yet another door for a pandemic to emerge whether this one does now, or not. This strain has met the criteria of a pandemic capable virus. But, that doesn't mean it will cause a pandemic.

    As far as virulence goes, it's too early to calculate a reliable case fatality ratio, but the virus has demonstrated the ability to kill healthy young adults.

    The media is already calling it a pandemic. Of course they are always a good source of information

    It has also been shown to be easily treated with retrovirals like Tamaflu...

    How is that whole SARS and or bird flu thing going?

    Novel and emerging infectious disease are always a concern, however, the WHO is about as inept at dealing with real health issues as the UN is at dealing with world threats. Much to do about nothing IMHO. We will hear about it on the news for the next six weeks and then it will fall off into oblivion…..
    The government is tooting its own horn by declaring an emergency so they can free up stock piled medicines. Here is a little something to think about in that regard. The annual flu season is about over for the year and all those stockpiled medicines they are freeing up to save us are all going in the trash if not used in the next few months anyway. The vaccines (none for this strain) all expire in a month or two and the Tamaflu and other retrovirlas also have a shelf life of no more than a year. I have a hunch that we will be sold how “the administration” has saved the world…….
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    Brian the CDC is no different than any other gooberment department. Do you trust or believe any of them? Most are out of touch with reality and as mentioned above the WHO is akin to the UN
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    Quote Originally Posted by badbullgator View Post
    The government is tooting its own horn by declaring an emergency so they can free up stock piled medicines. Here is a little something to think about in that regard. The annual flu season is about over for the year and all those stockpiled medicines they are freeing up to save us are all going in the trash if not used in the next few months anyway. The vaccines (none for this strain) all expire in a month or two and the Tamaflu and other retrovirlas also have a shelf life of no more than a year. I have a hunch that we will be sold how “the administration” has saved the world…….

    and Obomo will go globetrotting again bowing, kow towing and apologizing to countries like Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Iran and North Korea about how this pandemic was all our fault, and we're so sorry, but he hopes they'll accept our apology and some money so they will still like us.

    There Corey. Fixed it for ya

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    Well you know he was down there about the time it started......
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    Quote Originally Posted by badbullgator View Post
    Well you know he was down there about the time it started......
    And he wants socialized health care.....que the swine flu epidemic.

    Obomo wants gun control....all of sudden 90 percent of the guns used in the Mexi-Drug wars come from the U.S. How convenient....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie R. View Post
    And he wants socialized health care.....que the swine flu epidemic.

    Obomo wants gun control....all of sudden 90 percent of the guns used in the Mexi-Drug wars come from the U.S. How convenient....
    The facts are that less than 4% of thier guns come from the USA. The big providers are the gun runners from centeral and south America. I've never known of facts playing into the decision making process of the Dems.

    Obomo wants our freedoms, our liberties becase he doesn't think we can handle it and he has to manage that for us!
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    COme on Franco, are you saying the drug lords in south america, you know the ones who supply all the cocaine that comes up through mexico are also supply them guns?? No way, no how, those are just good old hard working guys and have never been know to have anythingto do with guns. When was the last time you heard anything but good things from columbia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by badbullgator View Post
    COme on Franco, are you saying the drug lords in south america, you know the ones who supply all the cocaine that comes up through mexico are also supply them guns?? No way, no how, those are just good old hard working guys and have never been know to have anythingto do with guns. When was the last time you heard anything but good things from columbia?
    We know the Obomonites would love to blame the USA for all the evils in the world! Maybe we can get Obomo down there to kiss some asses(he's really good at that) and ask them to please stop their violent ways. I'm sure that will do the trick!

    W.H.O. upgrades pandemic alert, outbreak all across Mexico on the same day Obomo is telling us not to worry!
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090427/...ine_flu_mexico

    Expect a flood of illegals crossing the boarder trying to escape. Expect Obomo to do nothing but talk.
    Last edited by Franco; 04-27-2009 at 04:46 PM.
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