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    I would like to see Fearless Learder goof like Ike did when he put Earl Warren on the bench and pick a closet conservative for the spot. With the way my luck is going he will pick Ward Churchill or some real dingleberry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Gutermuth View Post
    I would like to see Fearless Learder goof like Ike did when he put Earl Warren on the bench and pick a closet conservative for the spot. With the way my luck is going he will pick Ward Churchill or some real dingleberry.
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    It will be interesting to see the role reversal of those on the senate judiciary committee. Any bets that the republicans treat this presidents selection far better than Alito and Roberts were treated by the democrats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by subroc View Post
    It will be interesting to see the role reversal of those on the senate judiciary committee. Any bets that the republicans treat this presidents selection far better than Alito and Roberts were treated by the democrats?
    Well the Democrats certainly treated GWB's appointees better than the Republicans on the Judiciary Committee treated Clinton's. It would be nice to see the Republicans return the favor.

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    We shall see!
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    Quote Originally Posted by subroc View Post
    It will be interesting to see the role reversal of those on the senate judiciary committee. Any bets that the republicans treat this presidents selection far better than Alito and Roberts were treated by the democrats?
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    I don't have the statistics handy but it seems to me that you have reversed the roles. Bush's nominees faired far worse that did Clinton's. I seem to remember that at one time the number of vacancies held hostage by the Dems was so large that some judges at the District Court level were in danger of being seriously overloaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Johnson View Post
    Jeff-

    I don't have the statistics handy but it seems to me that you have reversed the roles. Bush's nominees faired far worse that did Clinton's. I seem to remember that at one time the number of vacancies held hostage by the Dems was so large that some judges at the District Court level were in danger of being seriously overloaded.

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    As judiciary chair Orin Hatch routinely refused to schedule hearings on Clinton appointees. Some of this he justified based on objections by a (Republican) Senator to the proposed candidate -- a policy which had some historical basis in Senate traditions but which he reversed once Bush became President. Both Orin Hatch and John Ashcroft (still a Senator under Clinton) openly said that it was essential to keep liberals out of the courts and that they would not allow liberal candidates to be appointed.

    Clinton, who did not place the same importance on judicial nominees and preferred to avoid confrontation on this issue, responded by appointing some of the most conservative judicial candidates ever put forward by a Democrat. With this approach, his record on gaining approvals for appellate court nominees was approximately equal to GWB's. However, he was less successful at the lower court levels and the vacancy rate for district level judicial nominees was very high. These vacancies were rapidly filled once GWB became President.

    While the vacancy rate at the appellate level remained largely unchanged under GWB, that statistic ignores the fact that 90 new judgeships were created, thus allowing GWB to fill many more positions. A large majority of all Federal judges were appointed by Republican Presidents.

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    Your post relies on your interpretation of the situation....as did mine. I was simply asking if you had any facts. It appears that you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Johnson View Post
    Your post relies on your interpretation of the situation....as did mine. I was simply asking if you had any facts. It appears that you don't.

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    At the Federal circuit court level, 61% of all justices are Republican. At the appellate level, 56% were appointed by Republicans and 36% by Democrats. The number of vacancies increased from 18 (out of 178) to 25 while Clinton was President. For all but two of these, Clinton had made appointments over a period of years that were not acted on by the Republican controlled Judiciary Committee and finally expired at the end of his term. 21 nominations were pending as of 7/1/2000, the traditional last date for considering nominations by an outgoing president. Under Bush, the number of vacancies declined from 25 at the beginning of his term to 12. While Bush actually had more appointments rejected or withdrawn, he was not ultimately blocked from making the appointment as became the pattern under Orin Hatch's administration of the process.

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