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    Default Suspect detained over 'extremist' bumper sticker ?

    from WND http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=97374

    Posted: May 07, 2009
    10:45 pm Eastern

    By Bob Unruh
    2009 WorldNetDaily



    A Louisiana driver has been stopped and detained for having a "Don't Tread on Me" bumper sticker on his vehicle and warned by a police officer about the "subversive" message it sent, according to the driver's relative.
    The situation developed in the small town
    of Ball, La., where a receptionist at the police department told WND she knew nothing about the traffic stop, during which the "suspect" was investigated for "extremist" activities, the relative said.
    It followed by only a few weeks the release of a Department of Homeland Security report[ "Right-wing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment" , which prompted outrage from legislators and a campaign calling for the resignation of DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano.
    The report cites individuals who sport certain bumper stickers on their vehicles as suspect, and it was delivered to tens of thousands of local law enforcement officers across the nation.


    According to the relative, the situation happened this way:
    Her brother-in-law was driving home from work through the town that has a local reputation for enhancing its budget by stopping speeders and ticketing them. He was pulled over by police officers who told him "he had a subversive survivalist bumper sticker on his car."

    "They proceeded to keep him there on the side of the road while they ran whatever they do to see if you have a record, keeping him standing by the side of the road for 30 minutes," she told WND.
    Finding no record and no reason to keep him, they warned him and eventually let him go, she said.


    WND is withholding the driver's name and the relative's name at their request. However, the situation was described on the American Vision blog, too.

    Hope y'all are ready for the Thought Police
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    If you're not guilty of anything you have nothing to fear. Right?

    So you are saying you have no problem with someone being stopped for this? Not surprising that you do not care about freedom of speech or expression. You are all about a police state I guess. You would have no problem with the lefties being stopped of anti war stickers or Bush is an idiot stickers? What does not being guilty of anything have to do with some yahoo stopping you for a bumper sticker? I do have a probelm with being stopped for no reason other than that....just me I guess and after all I am sure I fit the RWE discription
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    Quote Originally Posted by badbullgator View Post
    So you are saying you have no problem with someone being stopped for this? Not surprising that you do not care about freedom of speech or expression. You are all about a police state I guess. You would have no problem with the lefties being stopped of anti war stickers or Bush is an idiot stickers? What does not being guilty of anything have to do with some yahoo stopping you for a bumper sticker? I do have a probelm with being stopped for no reason other than that....just me I guess and after all I am sure I fit the RWE discription
    No, he's making the apples to pancakes analogy that an individual being deprived of his 1st Ammendment rights by some hick police officer equates to the Govt. trampling the rights of jihadists in America planning for our destruction by conducting surveillance on them.

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    Police make profile stops all the time. The guy was stopped because he fit the current profile model. He was detained, checked out and released. Happens all the time boys.
    I don't believe profile stops of vehicles is right. No matter what the profile parameters may be. We've chosen to give this power to law enforcement.
    We have no one to blame but ourselves if it is misdirected.

    Furthermore I doubt the veracity of a story where the only source is an un-named 'relative'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    If you're not guilty of anything you have nothing to fear. Right?
    Yes, you do!
    You should fear a government (representative) that will infringe on your 4th Amendment guaranteed rights simply for expressing your 1st!
    When one part of the Constitution can be disregarded, all of it can.

    I suppose that you've never heard of mistaken identities or planted evidence.

    I would have thought that you'd be one of the first here to speak up and say profiling is wrong, no mater what side is being profiled.

    The "veracity of the story" may be doubted but the validity of the argument is still the same.
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    Is there any doubt that our rights under the 1st Amendment will be under a full-blown assualt from the leftist/progressives over the next 4 years?

    The first major assualt against our freedom of speech is coming from the Whitehouse with support from our current "rubber stamp" Congress and House under the guise of the "Fairness Doctrine".

    The new "Fairness" committee of the FCC, put together by the White House is a conglomorate of everything socialist. The goal is to limit conservative talk radio by offering the opposition a voice through tax payer finanaced support of leftist media.

    Understand that radio stations across America are largely owned by public companies whose goal is to make money. These public companies are apolitical meaning they are willing to broadcast any view as long as it makes the company money. There is no money to be made on Leftist Talk Radio. Air America is a financial bust because no one listens to it. No ratings equal no revenue! So now, the Leftist agenda will be tax payer supported if the Whitehouse gets their way!
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    All I know is I just ordered me 2 of those stickers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Noel View Post
    All I know is I just ordered me 2 of those stickers.
    I was thinkin the same thing
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    You read stories like the one Brian posted above and stories like this

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124174154190098941.html

    and it makes you wonder who the real enemy is in the eyes of the current administration.....seems to me they have it ass-backwards. They are more worried about the rights of extremists that freaking HATE the US as opposed to the people that love this country more than most.

    I am going to get a bald spot from all the head scratching I have been doing and will be doing for sure over the next 3+ years

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