Postmodernism...

[Pete]

Baptists, Methodists, Pentecostals, Anglicans, Lutherans, Calvinists, Catholics, Seventh Day Adventists, Episcopalians, etc, etc, etc. Which ones are "false Christianity" and which ones preach the "one true gospel"? Save us the huge pile of scriptural quotes and just tell us what you believe.
And in what way was my original question "dubious"?
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Its not that its false christianity but much of the info stems from paganism. There are probably peopl from most religions who have an honest heart to serve God ,,,but often they do wacky things in the name of religion. Luckily God looks on the heart.
Its best to be completely accurate when dealing with scriptures,,but sometimes theres good enough.
Satins original intent was to steal worship away from God,,thats why he got the boot. The more myth and sometimes out right lies surrounding the word of God the more he steers people away from the true heart of God.
So you can't worship God the father of JC if you think God is a Frog,or whatever because it has nothing to do with God.
So the more wrong stuff you believe the harder it is for God to bless you. He has a will for his children ,,,and iff they try hard to learn it and do it ,,they get blessed.
If they don't care about it why should God go out of his way to bless them

God descibes himself with the father analogy because its similiar in a way that earthly fathers care for their children.
I always honor my kids when they try to do my will
When they are disobedient and defiant they don't get jack. If they try hard to do my will I'll bend over backwards for them.

There behavior doesn't make or unmake them my children. They are born of my seed and if they blow up the world they are still my kids,,,but I will turn my back on them and disown them. But they are still Petestians(get it) Pete within them by seed.

So If someone is of a weird type of religon but they believe enough to get gods seed in them then they are for ever christians,,,but their standing will fluctuate with their behavior.
So thats why one can't really be a false christian because either you have Gods seed in you or you don't. Its your applying his will that will show manifest in the life of a son of God.

Their are christians that don't like God because of something bad that might have happened,,,it doesn't make them less christian. it just makes their standing in the family of God less productive as a christian.

God made it incredably easy to be his kid Romans 10 : 9 and 10

its not tough to be a christian but it takes balls to do his will
Pete

[Pete]

Pete, I really wish you would write a book,and not let anyone edit it. That is hilarious !
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Do you think anybody would buy it

Pete

[Keith Farmer]

My definition;
Ancient Middleastern man’s attempt to explain his exsistance.

Here is what the Apostle Paul wrote about the Gospel:

16For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
17For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "BUT THE RIGHTEOUS man SHALL LIVE BY FAITH." (Romans 1:16,17 NASB) Emphasis original

Paul was not just an ordinary bum from the street. His educational background in cultural studies as well as religion, philosophy, etc. were unsurpassed by any of his contemporaries of the era. He was "enlightened" so to speak. Paul went on in Romans to say that men who suppressed the truth in unrighteousness became futile in their speculations. These same men, Paul said, professed to be wise but had become fools. Perhaps the same can be said of intellectuals today who spout postmodernistic jargon bathed in Christian terminology in their effort to further suppress the truth...they pass their intellect off as wisdom but in reality, from God's perspective, they are merely being foolish.

As a child I read most of it and today I view it as fiction.

Paul also wrote the following...kinda just the opposite of your actions Booty (being that Paul was a martyr for the sake of the Gospel...he surely did not view it as "fiction"):

11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. (1 Corinthians 13:11 New King James Version)


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[Franco]

That is one of the great things about our country Keith, we are free to believe in what we want to. Obviously, you find comfort in yours as I do mine.

The difference between me and the Obomonites is that I respect your freedom to do so. I am not anti-ancient religions as much as I am pro freedom. The Obomonites are who the Christians should be concerned with because they won't do well is our new socialist/secular society.

[Pete]

I could give you a scriptual referance why we exist. But then again it will come down to weather people believe it or not

Pete

[YardleyLabs]

Here is what the Apostle Paul wrote about the Gospel:

16For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
17For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "BUT THE RIGHTEOUS man SHALL LIVE BY FAITH." (Romans 1:16,17 NASB) Emphasis original

Paul was not just an ordinary bum from the street. His educational background in cultural studies as well as religion, philosophy, etc. were unsurpassed by any of his contemporaries of the era. He was "enlightened" so to speak. Paul went on in Romans to say that men who suppressed the truth in unrighteousness became futile in their speculations. These same men, Paul said, professed to be wise but had become fools. Perhaps the same can be said of intellectuals today who spout postmodernistic jargon bathed in Christian terminology in their effort to further suppress the truth...they pass their intellect off as wisdom but in reality, from God's perspective, they are merely being foolish.



Paul also wrote the following...kinda just the opposite of your actions Booty (being that Paul was a martyr for the sake of the Gospel...he surely did not view it as "fiction"):

11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. (1 Corinthians 13:11 New King James Version)


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Keith,

I truly enjoy reading the Bible. However, I do not accept it as fact or as revealed truth. As a consequence, I find quotations from the Bible to be pointless as a form of "reasoned" argument since the reason disappears in the absence of faith. Ultimately, faith is the antithesis of reason. That doesn't make it wrong. It is simply something different.

[Franco]

I could give you a scriptual referance why we exist. But then again it will come down to weather people believe it or not

Pete

Go ahead and post it, it is all generally good reading and much of it has a certain amount of wisdom. Things we can all learn from as man figured out through lifes experiences over the ages, right from wrong. Afterall, we have only had 30,000 plus years to explore our exsistence.

[Pete]

Isaiah 43:7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.

I am out of time,,gotta go air dogs

but this is the first one I could think of,God created man to worship him. God wanted a family. Why he made ,formed and created man to glorify him woiuld take a book filled with scripture build up. And most people would fall asleep reading it. If my kid hasn't hi jacked the puter while i'm airing I'll post more
I can post one liners out of the book concerning this subject but in reality its the scripture build up that makes the hair stand up on the people who believe.

Gotta go
Pete

[Keith Farmer]

I truly enjoy reading the Bible. However, I do not accept it as fact or as revealed truth.

I believe that truth in its very condensed essence is the self expression of God. God chose to reveal Himself to man in several different ways...one of which is His written word, which is called the word of truth. Another is through nature and the heavens. As such, truth is theological.

Further, truth is ontological...the way things really are. Reality is the exact order of God expressed via His divine sovereign will. Any search for truth that sets aside God's inspired, infallible, inerrant word is spurious. Any search for truth that imposes man's wisdom over God's word is likewise spurious. Any search for truth without the inclusion of God Himself as the source or objective is foolish since God alone is the source and embodiment of truth.

Like Paul said in Romans...Let God be true and every man a liar!

Jesus Himself described intellectually driven false religious leaders as whitewashed tombs...beautiful on the outside but full of deadmen's bones and uncleanness on the inside. Vain attempts at piety are a mere whitewashing of the hideous message postmodernism spews Jeff...nothing more.





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[Pete]

Kieth
That was very well spoken.


I was just thinking what K bulluck said about the trinity.the diety of christ and something else I can't remember and if I try to hit the back button it will erase my post so I wont go back to look at it.
But in essence he mentioned that all christians had that in common.

Well Im someone people would classify as christen . Through research I have traced the many different origins of the 3 in 1 God and I believe that JC was the son of God not God himself.
Would that make me a false christian.

It was by coincidence that I posted Isaiah 43 :7 but thinking about it now if that verse was expounded on it would totally shake and crumble the foundation of ancient christianity.

Pete