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    Been years since I did yard work with my now oldest Lab, but I remember using a black steel pipe and check cord run through it to gain leverage and aid in heeling/positioning. Worked well. Dang it if I can figure out where I learned it or what to do now. Any clues? I searched and searched this site to no avail.

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    Sounds like the snare the dog catcher uses...IMHO not the most humane method for teaching obedience. May I suggest you all pick up a Smartworks dvd or book by Evan Graham, you'll be surprised what a little praise and kindness will get done now a days..
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    I had one of those--I now have one that I put a clip on the end of a piece of pvc--does and you clip it on collar for control. It works great and really does not hurt the dog any more than attaching a leash.
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    I think it was Tarant that advocated the pipe and lead for the extra leverage it gave you over the dog. If not Tarant then one of the other dog writers of his era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Lunsford View Post
    I don't think I read anything about him beating the dog with the pipe. And as far as kindness goes, did you actually do FF? That is not kindness, but it is a heck of a training tool to have under your dog's belt to make his life easier down the road.

    My apologies to all for taking the visual imprint in my mind and allowing it bias my response. vast attempts of capturing strays.

    Its a tool that does give handler the upper hand in most situations.

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    It simply gave me more leverage, very humane. Now using it on my wife is another story...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard N View Post
    I think it was Tarant that advocated the pipe and lead for the extra leverage it gave you over the dog. If not Tarant then one of the other dog writers of his era.
    Yes, it was Tarant. He called it a powerbar.

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    Mike Gould illustrates and explains the use of what he calls "The Power Obedience Bar" or "Power Bar" in chapter 10, his formal obedience chapter, of his book "The Labrador Shooting Dog."
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    Some pointing dog folks have long used essentially the same tool only called a "Buddy bar" after Buddy someone who popularized, if not invented, it.
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    Subrock is right. It was a Mike Gould invention, and described by Tarrant. I WILL use one with my next dog, whenever that is! And you all know what a softie I am
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