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    If America or Massachusetts for that matter is not conservative, why won't they allow a up or down vote on gay marriage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpaschal30 View Post
    If America or Massachusetts for that matter is not conservative, why won't they allow a up or down vote on gay marriage?
    In our democracy (or represantative democracy) not *everything* is determined by majority vote. Certain "unalienable rights" and premises were laid as foundations, and are not subject to simple referendum.

    A simple example is the DC gun-law. The courts decided that even though DC had a majority vote to ban guns under the old law, it violated a founding principle, and therefore could not stand. I for one, don't want my fundamental rights subject to mob rule. That be the case, we might lose many things dear to us, because we don't happen to fall in the majority. Some things that are important to others, seem ridiculous to us, but deserve the same consideration and protection as our issues. That's why we have three separate branches of government, and it's worked pretty well so far.

    Generally speaking, constitutional amendments PROTECT rights, not specifically take them away. The constitution is not a totally inclusive delineation of rights. If something is not specifically mentioned, then it rests with the states or the people, unless it infringes on the rights of others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    In our democracy (or represantative democracy) not *everything* is determined by majority vote. Certain "unalienable rights" and premises were laid as foundations, and are not subject to simple referendum.

    A simple example is the DC gun-law. The courts decided that even though DC had a majority vote to ban guns under the old law, it violated a founding principle, and therefore could not stand. I for one, don't want my fundamental rights subject to mob rule. That be the case, we might lose many things dear to us, because we don't happen to fall in the majority. Some things that are important to others, seem ridiculous to us, but deserve the same consideration and protection as our issues. That's why we have three separate branches of government, and it's worked pretty well so far.

    Generally speaking, constitutional amendments PROTECT rights, not specifically take them away. The constitution is not a totally inclusive delineation of rights. If something is not specifically mentioned, then it rests with the states or the people, unless it infringes on the rights of others.
    I know that. I also know it would not pass, because America is conservative. The original question.

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    Ones persuasion is made manifest by actions not words.
    Most city people vote liberal thats proven. most rural area's are conservative. Thats proven.
    People do different things in cities than in rural communities.
    And birds of a feather tend to flock together. If your born and raised in the city and hate it,,, your probably conservative,,you fish,hunt listen to country music and all affiliated ammusements.

    If you grew up in the country and hate it ,, you love shopping and malls fancy things and you like all kinds of cultural stuff ., It bothers you to step in horse sh!t .

    No poll just an obsevation.

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