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    I've read most of the post here on the POTUS forum over the months, and one line sticks in my head the most. Probably because it rings so true and I've read it so many times.

    That line is....

    We live in Cuba now.
    It's time we abandon our party affiliations and rather than being good Dems or good Repubs we all become good Americans. MJH345

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    I've read most of the post here on the POTUS forum over the months, and one line sticks in my head the most. Probably because it rings so true and I've read it so many times.

    That line is....

    We live in Cuba now.
    Oddly enough, I agree with that line. I think that we, like Cuba find ourselves at the cusp of many changes.
    We will not become the Cuba of Castro. That time may well be over.
    Flying over Cuba several years ago, on a fly-in to the Caymans, I was struck by the the relative prestine condition of the shorline and reefs compared to the condition of the keys.
    When the Castro regime comes to an end, and it will, coastal development in Cuba may well bring the economic stimulus to the US and the gulf coast states that brings both economies out of the doldrums.

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    In Castro's Cuba horse-drawn carts have replaced cars and oxen have replaced tractors. Tin cans are recycled into drinking cups and banana peels into Cuban sandals.

    Food is rationed, gas is rationed, even sugar is rationed in Castro's Cuba.

    Cuba's Castro forbids the release of certain economic data and he once declared GDP a capitalist instrument so he could make certain adjustments and declare Cuba's GDP growing at 5%.

    America's Castro, along with his guerillas have been in power for less than a year. America's Castro has only been able to ration medicine and the very air we breathe.

    America's Castro has a lot of catching up to do!

    We live in Cuba now.

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    If you really can't recognize the difference, you might as well live in Cuba. The weather would be better than where you are. The biggest threat to freedom in this country are right wing (and left wing) extremists ready to throw democracy out the window because they don't like the results of the election. Those are the people who threaten our heritage: not the immigrants, not the liberals, not the moderates or conservatives, not the atheists, and not the religious. The price of freedom is that we fight for the right of the people to determine their government at the ballot box, and we live with the result while preparing for the next election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    If you really can't recognize the difference, you might as well live in Cuba. The weather would be better than where you are. The biggest threat to freedom in this country are right wing (and left wing) extremists ready to throw democracy out the window because they don't like the results of the election. Those are the people who threaten our heritage: not the immigrants, not the liberals, not the moderates or conservatives, not the atheists, and not the religious. The price of freedom is that we fight for the right of the people to determine their government at the ballot box, and we live with the result while preparing for the next election.
    I don't agree. The entitlement mentallity is killing this country and the Dems thrive off of it. Anyone that wants to see the future of this country only need look at California.

    The government does not belong in the private sector. GM will ALWAYS be dependent on the goobs for money. Now, they will destroy the best health care system in the world. If they say something will cost $1. better bet on it costing $20. They can't run anything properly and now they want to run the auto, banking, energy and health industry. Major corporations will be leaving our boarders for a more business friendly envirn.

    I hope we start hearing talk of succession from our friends over in Texas. Between Texas, Alaska, Oklahoma, Louisiana and a few other states, we would do just fine without the socialist we have now!
    Last edited by Franco; 07-30-2009 at 04:32 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    If you really can't recognize the difference, you might as well live in Cuba. The weather would be better than where you are. The biggest threat to freedom in this country are right wing (and left wing) extremists ready to throw democracy out the window because they don't like the results of the election. Those are the people who threaten our heritage: not the immigrants, not the liberals, not the moderates or conservatives, not the atheists, and not the religious. The price of freedom is that we fight for the right of the people to determine their government at the ballot box, and we live with the result while preparing for the next election.
    Let me help you out on this.
    He knows this is not Cuba.

    He is just concerned that it's not the "land of the free any more."
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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    Let me help you out on this.
    He knows this is not Cuba.

    He is just concerned that it's not the "land of the free any more."


    I couldn't have said it better!

    Everything that has made this country great is under attack. From Free Enterprise to Gun ownership is under attack and they do want to tell us how we are to live.
    It's time we abandon our party affiliations and rather than being good Dems or good Repubs we all become good Americans. MJH345

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
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    I couldn't have said it better!

    Everything that has made this country great is under attack. From Free Enterprise to Gun ownership is under attack and they do want to tell us how we are to live.
    Our taxes are at their lowest levels in 70 years. Gun ownership rights are less threatened than at any time in the last 20 years as evidenced most recently by the fact that 58 senators voted for a national right to carry. Families have more educational options for their children today than at any time in the last 60 years. Voter turnout in the last election was higher than in the last election than at any time in the last 40 years. The number of families on welfare has dropped 50% and the average cash grant for those on welfare has declined as well. Those are the positives.

    On the other hand, the median income in the country has declined over the last 20 years as income and wealth has been redistributed to a smaller and smaller percentage of the population. The percentage of all personal income earned by those in the lower 50% of our population has declined by about 40%. Our unemployment rate has doubled and real GDP has been virtually flat for five years. Our national debt doubled between early 2001 and the end of 2008, and has gone up 10% in 2009. The percentage of the population without health insurance has increased dramatically over the last eight years while the cost of health care has grown from 13% of GDP in 2000 (a level maintained for about eight years) to 17% in 2008.

    The pendulum has swung very far in one direction -- to the right -- for a long time. It is not the end of the world if it swings back a little in the other direction. We will still end up to the right of where we were when Reagan was President by almost every measure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post

    Our taxes are at their lowest levels in 70 years. Gun ownership rights are less threatened than at any time in the last 20 years as evidenced most recently by the fact that 58 senators voted for a national right to carry. Families have more educational options for their children today than at any time in the last 60 years. Voter turnout in the last election was higher than in the last election than at any time in the last 40 years. The number of families on welfare has dropped 50% and the average cash grant for those on welfare has declined as well. Those are the positives.

    .
    And, Obama accomplished this?

    Of course not.

    But, lets address the issues you brought up and where they are today.

    They way Obama is spending money, to believe that everyone won't being paying substantially more taxes is a pipe dream. How are we going to pay our debts, cover inflation, pay for the TRILLION in pork that Oabma passed off on the previous Congress? Then, there is a trillion in bailout money that the Fed doesn't even know where it went? Now, a government that can't run anything right wants to spend TRILLIONS (don't be fooled by thier accounting because anything the Gov does comes in way over budget) on health care.

    To think that our gun rights are secure is not realistic. This is the most left and looney administration in our history. These people are capable of taking stupidity to new lows.

    Our public educational system has been dysfunctional since busing started in the 1960' Our public schools are more segragated today than in the 60's. No responsible parent is going to send thier children to a public school where they will become a part of the Hip Hop culture, unless they haven't the money for private schooling. The teachers union should be disbanded.

    Welfare is down because they have switched to SS Disablity or Medicare.

    I see the world differently and I've never worn rose-colored glasses.
    Last edited by Franco; 07-30-2009 at 08:00 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    I don't agree. The entitlement mentallity is killing this country and the Dems thrive off of it. Anyone that wants to see the future of this country only need look at California.

    The government does not belong in the private sector. GM will ALWAYS be dependent on the goobs for money. Now, they will destroy the best health care system in the world. If they say something will cost $1. better bet on it costing $20. They can't run anything properly and now they want to run the auto, banking, energy and health industry. Major corporations will be leaving our boarders for a more business friendly envirn.

    I hope we start hearing talk of succession from our friends over in Texas. Between Texas, Alaska, Oklahoma, Louisiana and a few other states, we would do just fine without the socialist we have now!
    As a combat veteran who fought for the UNITED STATES of AMERICA, (including Texas, Alaska, Louisiana, and Oklahoma) and the people who live there, I am sickened and offended by that treasonous drivel of secession. What a SHAME it comes from someone who quotes Jefferson in their autograph line. If you want to "start hearing talk of [succession]", don't call yourself an American in front of me please. Thankfully, I realize you don't represent the many good people of those states, who consider such talk anti-American and extreme radical jibberish.
    God Bless PFC Jamie Harkness. The US Army's newest PFC, but still our neighbor's little girl!

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