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    I think the best quote was from BHO himself, and I can't believe someone else hasn't pointed it out.

    At his little NH meeting the other day he was asked how private insurance companies could compete if the HC bill was passed. His response was something to the effect of.... How are Fed-Ex and UPS doing competing against the USPS, he went on to add that Fed-Ex and UPS are doing fine; the USPS is the one that struggles and needs help!!

    That is his argument in favor of MORE govt intrusion into Health Care?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjh345 View Post
    I think the best quote was from BHO himself, and I can't believe someone else hasn't pointed it out.

    At his little NH meeting the other day he was asked how private insurance companies could compete if the HC bill was passed. His response was something to the effect of.... How are Fed-Ex and UPS doing competing against the USPS, he went on to add that Fed-Ex and UPS are doing fine; the USPS is the one that struggles and needs help!!

    That is his argument in favor of MORE govt intrusion into Health Care?????
    Well, think about it. You have public and private industries providing complimentary services. When you send out Christmas cards, do you send each one by FedEX or UPS....or do you use the affordable post office? If private industry is far superior, why don't you use big brown for bills, cards, etc...?
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    Because Big Brown isn't government subsidized, raising prices regularly and still failing. That's what the USPS is doing. Sounds like a great business model for health care. Point taken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SueLab View Post
    Well, it looks like the old bait and switch has worked...instead of talking about health care reform, now we are talking about health insurance reform and those nasty insurance companies!

    If there needs to be reform, let congress pass a couple of laws to allow/force insurance companies to insure in all states and to not reject preexisting conditions among other reforms. Why a complete government take over of health care and head to head competition with private companies??? Both sound like socialism to me and further intrusion by the governemnt into my personal business...thank you big government, your job is defending the country not imposing itself on individuals and direct competion with industry of any kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas D View Post
    You think your health insurance premiums are high now, just wait until they have to throw all their underwriting guidelines out the window.
    Screw underwriting guidelines. Or at least, fix them so that they're fair.

    My parents paid health insurance premiums their entire lives, only to have my mother dropped after ONE major illness at age 60-something--one that resolved quickly and did not recur. I don't know the details of how and why she was dropped and could not find replacement coverage, but I believe it was related to the end of COBRA coverage. For the next couple of years, they lived in abject fear and paid ridiculous indemnity-type insurance on her that pretty much meant she paid for any healthcare expenses out of pocket anyway (in addition to the high premium) until medicaid kicked in.

    An entire life of working with the system in good faith, to be cherry-picked out of it in the most vulnerable two or three years of their financial lives.

    They're not in favor of the proposed reforms, either...

    But come on, people--is the system we have SACRED now because there's a proposal (unacceptable as it may be) that competes with the status quo?
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    Luvalab, see the story about my cousin in the media bias thread.

    People just don't realize how vulnerable they are.
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    Can't compare Canada to the USA. Canada doesn't have the millions of indigents and illegals to take care of.

    It all boils down to a government takeover so that those with some money can pay for those without. Not that we already don't have charitable hospitals and health care, it is just that those that work and pay for health insurence shouldn't have better coverage than the wards of the state.

    I live in a large medical community, large for this aprt of the world and we are the medical hub for the state. Why are so many Canadians coming here for thier health care?

    I'm not saying that we don't need some insurance reform and Tort reform but the goobs taking over a business is a recipe for disaster.
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    Why in the hell would the insurance companies cover pre existing conditions. They are INSURANCE companies not Healthcare companies, they take care of you in case something happens not something that has already happened. At least not without paying much larger fees. I say start with tort reform and go from there. Also I think if you are going to do a government plan you should be able to opt out, meaning you don't have to pay the taxes that result from healthcare "reform" since you aren't going to be using it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Luvalab, see the story about my cousin in the media bias thread.

    People just don't realize how vulnerable they are.
    Just saw it.

    Unfortunately, I think a whole bunch of folks--including most of congress--have lost their minds, and the best short-term strategy is to just drop the whole thing for a while.

    It's become sort of like some bad Thanksgiving dinner, where everyone should probably just shove rolls in their mouths so that the family will get through Christmas without a permanent rift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjh345 View Post
    I think the best quote was from BHO himself, and I can't believe someone else hasn't pointed it out.

    At his little NH meeting the other day he was asked how private insurance companies could compete if the HC bill was passed. His response was something to the effect of.... How are Fed-Ex and UPS doing competing against the USPS, he went on to add that Fed-Ex and UPS are doing fine; the USPS is the one that struggles and needs help!!

    That is his argument in favor of MORE govt intrusion into Health Care?????
    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Well, think about it. You have public and private industries providing complimentary services. When you send out Christmas cards, do you send each one by FedEX or UPS....or do you use the affordable post office? If private industry is far superior, why don't you use big brown for bills, cards, etc...?
    Quote Originally Posted by Hookset View Post
    Because Big Brown isn't government subsidized, raising prices regularly and still failing. That's what the USPS is doing. Sounds like a great business model for health care. Point taken.
    Sounds like there IS one thing we can agree with BHO on....

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