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    Quote Originally Posted by TXduckdog View Post
    Are you referring to me? WHAT race card?

    Explain how you think Beck is one of the most racist people you've ever seen?

    On Beck:

    "This guy [Obama] has exposed himself over and over again as a man with a deep seated hatred of white people and the white culture"

    when it's pointed ot that Obama surrounds himself with white people Beck says,

    "I'm not saying he doesn't like white people. I'm saying he has a problem..This guy is a racist."


    Beck repeatedly referred to "reparations" while discussing Obama's "universal program." Beck stated that "just in case the universalness of the program doesn't somehow or another quench his reparation appetite, he's making sure to do his part to pay the debt in the other areas. Written in the first 1,000-plus-page bill -- that nobody's going to read before they vote on it -- is a provision in this health care bill that says a medical school or other health-related institution pursued a grant or other contract from the government, they would have to prove their inclusiveness to minorities." [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 7/23/09]

    "His goal is creating a new America, a new model, a model that will settle old racial scores through new social justice." Beck also commented, "Obama is no dummy. He knows that you would never pass reparations. He knows you would never pass any of this stuff. This is all affirmative action." Earlier, he said, "[T]his is what he said on the campaign trail -- he's not for reparations because they don't go far enough. We need health care. We need everybody to go to college, et cetera, et cetera. So, we have no reparations. We also have no capitalism, which leads him, in his mind, to justice -- to justice. That is what we're changing to." [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 7/23/09]

    "This man [Obama] is putting through reparations times 10." Beck also asked, "Who'd receive the money? All blacks, or just those directly descended from slaves? Would Barack Obama?" Beck later added, "Wait a minute. His father was not a descendent of slaves, and his mother was white. So maybe Michelle Obama would be the only one that should be able to get the cash. Since Obama is half white and half black, would he pay and receive? See, these are the tricky questions, but then again, they have nothing to do with Obama's objection to reparations. Obama is against direct reparations for one reason: He doesn't ever want the victim card to be lost." [The Glenn Beck Program, 7/23/09]

    Basically, Beck defines all areas of disagreement in racial terms, a form of race baiting that I believe is thoroughly racist. I will admit that i am not sure if he is personally racist or not. I am sure that he sells racism as a way to increase viewership and believe that is even more racist.

    Beck provides no documentation of what he calls Obama's racist behavior (and personally, I do not see the Cambridge police incidents as racist). He also never addresses any of the specifics of the health bill. Rather he tries to declare them guilty by association by creating a racial linkage and ignoring the fact that affirmative action has been the policy of every democratic president since Kennedy as well as a few of the republican ones. In addition, he never even mentions that the bill he is citing was not submitted by Obama and that any of its provisions were not ones ever included by Obama in the list of basic components that he wanted.

    Quote Originally Posted by TXduckdog View Post
    What the hell does Obama being half white have to do with anything? He claims to be black and spouts the traditional black racist sentiments, only when he's with a black audience, mind you.
    I call that playing the race card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    I agree with you 100%. Beck has the right to say what he wants, short of yelling "fire" in a movie theatre. But its not government censorship if enough people are turned off by him that they write or quit patronizing his sponsors, and they decide to pull the plug on him. That's the people exercising their rights to buy or not to buy from his sponsors.

    This is the same as when Imus made the comments about the girls basketball team. (which I don't think he intended as racist, but public opinion said otherwise)

    If Beck gets canned because the free market spoke out, and can no longer justify his airtime based on market analysis, that's America.
    Completely agree with ya actually!

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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    It may have started that way, but then you and Tex decided to play the "race card".
    It still was about free speech. Playing 'the race card' was necessary to explain why it is not okay for Beck to state his opinion.

    If you think that the reaction would be the same if a black guy called any white politician a racist, then you are truly naive. An 'african american' (that term really bothers me) truly has free speech in this country as they can say anything they want without repercussion. (Think Jesse Jackson, 'Rev' Wright, any rapper, that stripper wh**e that accused Duke lacrosse players of rape, BET, United Negro College Fund, historically black colleges, etc)BTW, after it was found out that the stripper was lying, Jesse Jackson still gave her a free ride through college. A white person does not have free speech. (Think Beck, Imus, Rush (think McNabb), etc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    I don't see a lot to suggest that being black makes it easier to win election either in statewide or national elections. Most believe that Obama would have won by an additional 4-6% had he been white. That doesn't mean no one voted for him because he was black, many did. Even more voted against him because he was black. Obama won a majority of the votes in every major demographic group except white males. Go figure. I believe that reflects something good about how far our country has come since I was a kid and that it also reflects how well Obama reached out to speak to people of all colors and classes. Obviously the fact that Obama was running against the Party that brought us GWB helped as well.
    I have two thoughts on the quote above. First, I would argue that Obama lost the white male segment not because he was black, but because the largest segment of economic producers in this country are white males and they saw him for what he is - a far-left socialist whose ideals, if implemented, would destroy the economic greatness of this country. Second, what's with the 'Go Figure' comment? It seems to imply that you believe that white males are predisposed to vote against a black man simply because he is black.

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TXduckdog
    "What the hell does Obama being half white have to do with anything? He claims to be black and spouts the traditional black racist sentiments, only when he's with a black audience, mind you. "

    Yardley:
    I call that playing the race card.


    Jeff, I was merely commenting on what someone else had said about him being half white/half black......I was commenting on the fact that Obama does not see himself as half white...but rather 100% black and he does in fact pander the "party line" when it comes to the traditional black racist sentiments when he is with a black audience. This is irrefutable fact....there are tons of video to prove the point.

    So Jeff...it is my understanding....that you feel that ANY commentary or observation on race....is playing the race card....and thus by extension....racist? For such a smart guy this is a very pernicious and obtuse attitude. I am offended that you would project that term on me.

    One has to be very careful throwing that label around....."playing the race card" is merely the PC version of the term....without really knowing anything about the individual being so labeled. Along with the racist tendancies you project, you may find out they tend to take physical remedies to such a character slur.

    To be perfectly clear, if you ever made such reference to me in person, I would be looking to kick your a$$.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TXduckdog View Post
    Along with the racist tendancies you project, you may find out they tend to take physical remedies to such a character slur.

    To be perfectly clear, if you ever made such reference to me in person, I would be looking to kick your a$$.
    This is why people shouldn't carry guns to political rallies.
    This has gotten really malignant. It basically comes down to if someone says anything at all about race, it's labelled as racist by those who disagree.

    I see nothing but hard feeling coming out of these type threads, so I'm staying away from all things race-related. I would be surprised if this isn't locked soon anyway.
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    [QUOTE=Roger Perry;489896]Obama is half white!

    Which half??
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    I don't care what color anyone is, never have. My criteria has always been is the individual intelligent enough and competent enough to do the job?
    Unfortunately, in my opinion, the name calling and race posturing do nothing but draw attention away from the fact that this President dosen't now and never did bring anything to the table except his ability to read a teleprompter perhaps better than anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce MacPherson View Post
    I don't care what color anyone is, never have. My criteria has always been is the individual intelligent enough and competent enough to do the job?
    Unfortunately, in my opinion, the name calling and race posturing do nothing but draw attention away from the fact that this President dosen't now and never did bring anything to the table except his ability to read a teleprompter perhaps better than anyone.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh7xMhsLnac

    On this you tube link Obama talks about how wonderful Rev Wright is.

    Of course, we all know Rev Wright is not a racist!
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