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    Quote Originally Posted by ducknwork View Post
    Don't get too excited. I was thinking about this yesterday and we have a real catch 22 on our hands.

    If the economy does not recover in the next 3.5 years, where will we be as a nation? (if we still are a nation by then) If it does recover in the next 3.5 years, Obama's approval ratings will rise faster than a 12 year old with a playboy. That would surely mean 4 more years of him trying to destroy what's left of America.

    Which evil do we want?
    Are you asking which is preferable, Obama getting re-elected, or a possible complete failure of the United States of America and it ceasing to exist as a country?
    Are you serious? Maybe I read too much into your question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducknwork View Post
    Don't get too excited. I was thinking about this yesterday and we have a real catch 22 on our hands.

    If the economy does not recover in the next 3.5 years, where will we be as a nation? (if we still are a nation by then) If it does recover in the next 3.5 years, Obama's approval ratings will rise faster than a 12 year old with a playboy. That would surely mean 4 more years of him trying to destroy what's left of America.

    Which evil do we want?


    I think I would be more scared of the second scenario where the economy recovers and we have prosperity.
    In that doomsday scenario, Obama may indeed get re-elected.
    The last thing we need to do would be to reward a man for a job well done.
    Your first scenario of the economy failing & possibly having the U.S.A. cease to exist as a nation would definitely be the lesser of your two evils!!

    Catch 22 regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Are you asking which is preferable, Obama getting re-elected, or a possible complete failure of the United States of America and it ceasing to exist as a country?
    Are you serious? Maybe I read too much into your question.
    The better question is: are YOU serious? A "possible complete failure of the United States of America and it ceasing to exist as a country?" Really? "Chicken Little" lives!!!

    Your fellow Americans who help elect BHO are deserting his ship like rats after a mere 8 months. If that momentum continues, there's going to be a change in power after the mid-terms next year. A change in four years will then become a foregone conclusion. Our (yours and mine) biggest concern should be bailing out the water we're taking on now instead of what might have been if he hadn't been elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjh345 View Post
    I think I would be more scared of the second scenario where the economy recovers and we have prosperity.
    In that doomsday scenario, Obama may indeed get re-elected.
    The last thing we need to do would be to reward a man for a job well done.
    Your first scenario of the economy failing & possibly having the U.S.A. cease to exist as a nation would definitely be the lesser of your two evils!!

    Catch 22 regards
    Please explain your reference to a catch 22
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    Tongue in cheek. Read the post I quoted in my post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K G View Post
    The better question is: are YOU serious? A "possible complete failure of the United States of America and it ceasing to exist as a country?" Really? "Chicken Little" lives!!!

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    where will we be as a nation? (if we still are a nation by then) "

    Your words, not mine. As I said, maybe I read too much into it.

    I"m still at a loss as to why, after 8 years of Bush and neocon budgets, why we're in this mess that became apparent in around october 2008. This didn't just pop up Jan 20? We should be seeing job growth, budget surpluses, and the fruits of the Bush tax cuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Are you asking which is preferable, Obama getting re-elected, or a possible complete failure of the United States of America and it ceasing to exist as a country?
    Are you serious? Maybe I read too much into your question.
    In a way, you did read too much into it, but in a way you didn't. I don't truly think that America will cease to exist in the next 3.5 years if the economy doesn't recover, but we sure would be a lot more vulnerable and may not even recognize ourselves...

    SO...It's that or it recovers and Obama has 4 more years to turn us into Cuba. Either way, we're screwed.

    Pick your poison regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post

    I"m still at a loss as to why, after 8 years of Bush and neocon budgets, why we're in this mess that became apparent in around october 2008. This didn't just pop up Jan 20? We should be seeing job growth, budget surpluses, and the fruits of the Bush tax cuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    Please explain your reference to a catch 22
    I'm not sure if you are young enough that this question is serious. Assuming you are, Catch 22 is a reference to Joseph Heller's best selling novel of the same name about World War II. The most enjoyable way to find out the meaning is to read the novel, which is very funny. Catch 22 applies to persons seeking a mental health discharge from the army. It states that, since it is a mark of sanity to avoid danger, that anyone seeking a mental health discharge is obviously sane and cannot be discharged. It has been generalized to mean any lose-lose bureaucratic situation.

    I can't believe that I am old enough to have read the book shortly after it was published in paperback form (c. 1962/63).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducknwork View Post
    SO...It's that or it recovers and Obama has 4 more years to turn us into Cuba. Either way, we're screwed.

    Pick your poison regards,

    dnw
    So, eight years of neocon policy and we're in recession BEFORE Obama takes office. He implements policies which have been derided on this forum (for right or wrong) and IF the economy recovers in 3.5 years....will Obama have credit for that recovery? (despite turning us into Cuba, whatever that means...I thought FDR successfully turned us into Cuba...or Russia??) Or will it be Bush/Cheney who somehow masterminded a cleverly disguised, delayed action recovery without any legisltative action or monetary policy enacted?

    Just trying to understand the line of logic layed out in your scenario.
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