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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    I talked to my daughters teacher about this this morning. I told her if they were going to air this Obami address to students let me know ahead of time so I can Pick Kate up early that day. Her response was that she hadn't heard about and wouldn't be showing it to the kids. Thank God for a nice Christian school.

    Yup, she would be scarred for life it she had to listen to the President for 5 minutes, encouraging her to work hard, study, and stay in school. Irreparable damage...
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    Well, presumably the whole address will be accessible on-line to any wishing to view it. I will be stunned and very upset if contains anything suggestive of politics. Bush often went to schools and either spoke to assemblies or read stories in class (The 9/11 situation may have been unfortunate, but the intent was good).

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    It would be perfectly fine if it is only about encouraging students to work hard and study history but from what I understand the education department plans on giving lesson plans and activities that will somewhat focus on Obama. Such as, what can you do to help President Obama.

    "For grades 7-12, the Department of Education suggests teachers prepare by excerpting quotes from Obama's speeches on education for their students to contemplate -- and ask as questions such as "Why does President Obama want to speak with us today? How will he inspire us? How will he challenge us?"

    If it was phrased what can you do to help you country that would be fine but when you continually inject Obama everywhere that sounds more like indoctrination.

    He is the president of the United States not the pied piper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Yup, she would be scarred for life it she had to listen to the President for 5 minutes, encouraging her to work hard, study, and stay in school. Irreparable damage...
    That's what her mother, father, teachers, and family are for. What she doesn't need is a politician who hangs out with questionable characters, and has values that are the polar opposite of my families, coming off as someone who we as a family want to listen to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by code3retrievers View Post
    It would be perfectly fine if it is only about encouraging students to work hard and study history but from what I understand the education department plans on giving lesson plans and activities that will somewhat focus on Obama. Such as, what can you do to help President Obama.

    Here are the suggested activities for grades 7-12.

    http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/7-12.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    That's what her mother, father, teachers, and family are for. What she doesn't need is a politician who hangs out with questionable characters, and has values that are the polar opposite of my families, coming off as someone who we as a family want to listen to.
    I doubt if your kids are really the ones being targeted as in need of motivation. Or my 10 year old daughter for example who spent a week at camp invention (by her own choice) doing math and science projects, and read several books. I imagine there are plenty of kids however that need some motivation, say in inner city Detroit for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    I did answer that. So you did. You were editing your post as I was responding to the original post that didn't answer the question. Thanks for the answer.

    Where did you get, "telling them the importance of listening to what the President says and then having the children discuss way in which they could help the President?" It isn't in the letter from the secretary. Either you made it up, or heard it from someone who made it up. Or there's a third option I know you haven't considered...you don't know wtf you're even pimping. Look at the PreK though 6th grade govt. suggestions and you'll find both examples: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301...ptember-8-2009
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hew View Post
    Or there's a third option I know you haven't considered...you don't know wtf you're even pimping. Look at the PreK though 6th grade govt. suggestions and you'll find both examples: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301...ptember-8-2009
    Hew,

    On the assumption that the President's is going to be exactly as advertised -- an effort to encourage students to set goals, plan, and persevere -- what objections do you have to the planned curriculum? Are those objections specific to Obama or ones you would have with any President making a presentation for school children?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hew View Post
    ----------Or there's a third option I know you haven't considered...you don't know wtf you're even pimping. Look at the PreK though 6th grade govt. suggestions and you'll find both examples: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301...ptember-8-2009
    No, I read both lesson plans. I linked the 7-12 because the exercises are more meaningful. The k-6 appear more geared toward trying to inform the students to who this guy that's talking to them actually is, since most kids in say k-3 or 4 don't know who the heck the president is.

    And I'm not pimping anything. I'm pointing out the standard operating procedures behind the GOP in stirring up fake controversies based on crap that they just plain made up. Such as:

    "As the father of four children, I am absolutely appalled that taxpayer dollars are being used to spread President Obama's socialist ideology. The idea that school children across our nation will be forced to watch the President justify his plans for government-run health care, banks, and automobile companies, increasing taxes on those who create jobs, and racking up more debt than any other President, is not only infuriating, but goes against beliefs of the majority of Americans, while bypassing American parents through an invasive abuse of power."

    Greer flat out MADE THAT CRAP UP. If you have one shred of evidence that he didn't, I'd be happy to see it.
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    Buzz....how about this little gem of a statement of "bat crap" craziness.....perhaps you missed it.

    In advance of this address, we would like to share the following resources: a menu of classroom activities for students in grades preK-6 and for students in grades 7-12. These are ideas developed by and for teachers to help engage students and stimulate discussion on the importance of education in their lives.

    Now I wonder just who the developers were....the likes of Ayers, Alinsky...or perhaps the usual drivel put out by the NEA?

    There it is....the purpose for the whole letter.....if you don't think every panty waisted school board isn't going to snap this up....you haven't been to a school board meeting lately.

    The resources are ideas like taking notes on his speech, identifying key words and ideas and taking phrases from the speech and posting them on classroom walls. But there will be "follow-on" resources.

    What is this? China, N. Korea?

    Why the hell does this President feel the need to address school children? You'd think he has enough on his plate with everything else going on.

    We need to listen VERY closely to exactly what he says in his speech.....available of course on ONLY the White House website.

    Maybe it is only work hard, stay in school, get a job. We'll see.
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