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    The Prince of Lies

    By John Griffing

    "A lie told often enough becomes truth." - Vladimir Lenin

    President Obama's skill as a liar is critical to his success as a Socialist.

    Considering the zeal with which President Obama has in a very short time remade America, we can conclude that he will not stop until America is completely socialist. But one building block remains: government-controlled healthcare. As Lenin once said, "Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism." To embark upon such an ambitious project that has yet failed at every attempt, President Obama must lie, since it is clear that a sizeable majority opposes his healthcare reform.

    And President Obama is a most gifted liar. We're not talking about a new Clintonian era of likeable misinformation. This is not, "I didn't inhale." President Clinton's loveable way of twisting the truth pales in comparison to Obama's brazen boldness in lying even when Obama knows he will be caught.

    President Obama is a special breed of liar, employing an array of varying techniques intended to marshal public emotion in his favor. For example, he uses his own grandmother to gain sympathy for a plan that will leave millions of grandmothers without care.

    Unlike his predecessors, when caught in the midst of a deception, Obama is not deterred. He lies to cover his lies. Remember confessed terrorist Bill Ayers? First, then-Senator Obama denied knowing Ayers at all. Then, when the evidence was incontrovertible that Obama had indeed not only known Ayers, but also worked with him professionally, Obama changed his defense to one of ignorance, claiming that he was only a child when Ayers committed his crimes, and assumed that Ayers had been rehabilitated. Obama has continued and applied this pattern to a host of crucial national questions.

    Obama is a Socialist. And the authentic Socialist is not driven by morality or truth, but by the end that justifies the means.

    This philosophy reveals itself quite starkly in President Obama's patent fabrications regarding his healthcare reform plans. Observe the consistent mismatch between the facts and what Obama says:

    Obama says that he does not support a "single-payer system" even though his comments in favor of single-payer healthcare are on tape, and his "public option" amounts to a piecemeal takeover of private-sector medical coverage.

    Obama says, "You will not be waiting in any lines," but Section 1151 of HR 3200 penalizes hospitals for the costs incurred in readmitting patients, permitting the Health and Human Services Secretary to "reduce" payments to hospitals for readmission, a decision likely to force the sick out into the cold. If a cancer patient has a relapse, they might as well get drunk on morphine, because readmission will be exceedingly difficult.

    Obama ridicules the idea of "death panels" as right-wing hysteria, saying that HR 3200 contains no such entity. He is right. The Independent Medicare Advisory Council, the source of the death panel concerns, is the topic of another bill introduced by the Obama Administration. Its job? To cut Medicare payments. And specific sections of his proposed legislation create mechanisms that will result in the loss of care for elderly persons. In addition, Medicare Advantage programs would be ended, a cut of $150 billion. This has not stopped the President from saying, "We are not talking about cutting Medicare benefits."

    Obama makes the transparently false claim that private insurance will not be affected by HR 3200, and that those who like their current plans can keep them, despite the fact that individual Americans will only be allowed to obtain private plans for a 5 year grace period, and government plans will become the default should citizens switch employers.

    Obama says that "46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage. They are just vulnerable. If something happens, they go bankrupt, or they don't get the care they need." But everyone can currently obtain care, even if they cannot pay. That is why 60 hospitals in California have closed, because the law requires them to treat everyone. And that 46 million number is known to be bogus, since 9.7 million of this number are illegal aliens. By one estimate, 14 million Americans choose not to obtain coverage. 18 million are under 34 and are either dependents or simply opt not to seek insurance, according to one study. When these numbers are subtracted, only 5 million uninsured remain.

    Obama says that "we will make sure that no insurance company or government bureaucrat gets between you and the care you need," but responding to a Medicare recipient that had been denied the only drug that would alleviate his condition, Obama had this to say, "Look, there may be -- in nine out of 10 cases, the generic might work as well or better than the brand name. And we don't want to just subsidize the drug companies if you've got one that works just as well as another."

    Obama says that the healthcare reform measure will not be used to expand federal funding of abortions, knowing that the vaunted Hyde amendment applies only to Medicaid, not the public option, and that the Capps Amendment, as passed by the House Energy and Commerce Committee, explicitly requires every enrollee of a government-subsidized health insurance plan to be charged an extra fee to cover abortions. Obama can hardly plead ignorance.

    Obama makes outrageous claims that his healthcare reform will reduce the deficit and rein in healthcare spending, but the CBO says just the opposite. How can the present healthcare crisis, supposedly a crisis of spending, be solved with more spending, and by an institution known for its reckless disregard for fiscal realities?

    At the heart of this barrage of deception and dishonesty is an uncommon genius, innate to only the most devious sort. While Obama's opponents spend their precious time addressing each new lie, Obama will keep the focus off the end-zone, and government healthcare will sail into place. This strategy has a name; it is called "the big lie," and it depends on a fundamental truth of human nature: fatigue.

    At some point, citizens grow weary of hearing that their leaders are out for their ill, that political policies are nothing more than grand deceptions. Who wants to believe their President is a serial liar that seeks to impose full Socialism on the land of the free? Some truths are too big to contemplate, an observation that would lead one of the world's most successful propagandists to write:

    It would never come into their [the people's] heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.


    Obama is counting on this principle. Most Americans are growing tired and are ready for some sort of compromise, but we cannot give in to this impulse. Obama will not give up and neither can we. Be encouraged. Don't lose hope. We must push forward, and keep the heat on the enemies of freedom. Americans must stay alert or the lie of all lies will consume what is left of liberty in America.

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    Under the category of "big lies" repeated often enough becoming the truth, try to find an actual source where Lenin said "Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism." As far as I can tell, this is a "quote" invented by the right to help fight health care reform. It has been repeated over and over again but never by any source other than other right wing commentators, not one of whom has ever cited where Lenin made the statement. I find it hard to place credence in anyone writing about liars who begins with a lie.

    EDIT: BTW, the same goes for this favorite quote: "A lie told often enough becomes truth." - Vladimir Lenin. I've yet to see any actual source attribution other than one that said "probably proverbial", a polite way of saying probably just another lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    Under the category of "big lies" repeated often enough becoming the truth, try to find an actual source where Lenin said "Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism." As far as I can tell, this is a "quote" invented by the right to help fight health care reform. It has been repeated over and over again but never by any source other than other right wing commentators, not one of whom has ever cited where Lenin made the statement. I find it hard to place credence in anyone writing about liars who begins with a lie.

    EDIT: BTW, the same goes for this favorite quote: "A lie told often enough becomes truth." - Vladimir Lenin. I've yet to see any actual source attribution other than one that said "probably proverbial", a polite way of saying probably just another lie.
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    When Obama ran for President his campaign was mostly run on reforming health care. He laid out his plan then and there was no cry of socialism then.

    Bush promised health care reforms but never worked on health care once he was elected President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    Under the category of "big lies" repeated often enough becoming the truth, try to find an actual source where Lenin said "Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism." As far as I can tell, this is a "quote" invented by the right to help fight health care reform. It has been repeated over and over again but never by any source other than other right wing commentators, not one of whom has ever cited where Lenin made the statement. I find it hard to place credence in anyone writing about liars who begins with a lie.

    EDIT: BTW, the same goes for this favorite quote: "A lie told often enough becomes truth." - Vladimir Lenin. I've yet to see any actual source attribution other than one that said "probably proverbial", a polite way of saying probably just another lie.
    Which is the bigger lie? 46 million Americans wothout health insurance or the quotes? How about 95% of Americans will get a tax cut or the quotes? Or that a crisis in medical spending can be solved with more spending? Look at public edication increased federal spending brought more federal control, less local control, and a total loss of control. Why would health care work any differently?

    Here some Lenin quotes Obama would like;

    “One man with a gun can control 100 without one.”

    “It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed. ”

    “Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever.”

    “The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency.”

    “Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.”

    Check those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    When Obama ran for President his campaign was mostly run on reforming health care. He laid out his plan then and there was no cry of socialism then.

    Bush promised health care reforms but never worked on health care once he was elected President.
    Methinks he got a little sidetracked with something a smidge more important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducknwork View Post
    Methinks he got a little sidetracked with something a smidge more important.

    9/11 regards...
    I understand that it's hard to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    I understand that it's hard to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time...
    Yep, you sure got us on that one, holy smokes!!

    Oh, BTW, it's pretty hard to talk without a teleprompter too, isn't it??
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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    Under the category of "big lies" repeated often enough becoming the truth, ... "A lie told often enough becomes truth." - Vladimir Lenin. I've yet to see any actual source attribution other than one that said "probably proverbial", a polite way of saying probably just another lie.
    I think we all agree that regardless of who said it or if it's proverbial, pathological liars usually do end up believing their own lies after they tell them often enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie R. View Post
    I think we all agree that regardless of who said it or if it's proverbial, pathological liars usually do end up believing their own lies after they tell them often enough.
    Yes, but you have to tie the quote to someone like Lenin, because that fits the characterization of Obama as a commie. It helps feed the anxieties of the paranoid.
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