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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    He developed a $787 billion stimulus package and got it through Congress within about a month of his inauguration. The first impact of this was a tax cut of $400/individual and $800/couple which went into effect at the beginning of April.

    He avoided a complete failure of GM and Chrysler

    He inherited an economy that, by almost all predictions, was headed straight for depression and has managed to stabilize it for now with reasonable indications of a turnaround.

    He refocused attention on Afghanistan which was rapidly headed for becoming a failed state, taking Pakistan with it. The jury is out on whether or not this effort will succeed, but at least we are now headed in the right direction.

    He achieved buy-in from the Iraqis on a withdrawal schedule for US troops and has been following through in accordance with that schedule.

    Overturned the Bush administration ban on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research.

    Has at least begun the fight for meaningful health insurance reform.
    You forgot establishing the Obama-Youth Corps to create an army of young socialists to overtake America....oh wait, thankfully the right-wing media thwarted that initiative!! Whew!
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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    He developed a $787 billion stimulus package and got it through Congress within about a month of his inauguration. The first impact of this was a tax cut of $400/individual and $800/couple which went into effect at the beginning of April.

    He avoided a complete failure of GM and Chrysler

    He inherited an economy that, by almost all predictions, was headed straight for depression and has managed to stabilize it for now with reasonable indications of a turnaround.

    He refocused attention on Afghanistan which was rapidly headed for becoming a failed state, taking Pakistan with it. The jury is out on whether or not this effort will succeed, but at least we are now headed in the right direction.

    He achieved buy-in from the Iraqis on a withdrawal schedule for US troops and has been following through in accordance with that schedule.

    Overturned the Bush administration ban on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research.

    Has at least begun the fight for meaningful health insurance reform.

    Right off the DNC website.

    I daresay GM and Chrysler would've survived if allowed to cut into the bloated albatross known as union benefits.

    As for the economy.....Frank and Dodd were running rampant and are personally responsible for the economic debacle....that and the lack of oversight on the derivatives market.

    Individual and family taxcuts while admirable are of no benefit to the engine that drives the American economic machine. Corporate and small business taxcuts are the key.

    Yes...the Afghani situation is improving, but the leadership in place that is bringing about change was made by the previous admininstration as was the beginning of the troop withdrawal talks in Iran.

    The Bush administration was not totally against stem cell research, just the methodology on the acquisition of the stem cells.

    Amen...to the insurance reform.....but the initial heavy handed approach has probably doomed it for the near term.

    Obama's biggest issue is his lack of control over his party in Congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TXduckdog View Post
    Right off the DNC website.

    I daresay GM and Chrysler would've survived if allowed to cut into the bloated albatross known as union benefits.

    As for the economy.....Frank and Dodd were running rampant and are personally responsible for the economic debacle....that and the lack of oversight on the derivatives market.

    Individual and family taxcuts while admirable are of no benefit to the engine that drives the American economic machine. Corporate and small business taxcuts are the key.

    Yes...the Afghani situation is improving, but the leadership in place that is bringing about change was made by the previous admininstration as was the beginning of the troop withdrawal talks in Iran.

    The Bush administration was not totally against stem cell research, just the methodology on the acquisition of the stem cells.

    Amen...to the insurance reform.....but the initial heavy handed approach has probably doomed it for the near term.

    Obama's biggest issue is his lack of control over his party in Congress.
    Where did you find it on the DNC web site?

    On the economy, I said nothing about the source of the economic problems, although I disagree with your attribution. I commented on the effectiveness of Obama policies in helping to improve the situation at least for now. The WSJ noted, with respect to the stimulus program, that

    “…Economists say the money out the door -- combined with the expectation of additional funds flowing soon -- is fueling growth above where it would have been without any government action. Many forecasters say stimulus spending is adding two to three percentage points to economic growth in the second and third quarters, when measured at an annual rate. The impact in the second quarter, calculated by analyzing how the extra funds flowing into the economy boost consumption, investment and spending, helped slow the rate of decline and will lay the groundwork for positive growth in the third quarter -- something that seemed almost implausible just a few months ago.”

    Consumption is the engine that drives small business and large business. By handing out the tax cut in dribbles, spread across each pay check, the administration accomplished something that failed when tax cut checks were sent out in lump sums. People actually spent the money resulting in a boost in consumption. The second part of the stimulus program, expanded capital spending is kicking in just now and should provide continued stimulus ad respite while the economy continues a more fundamental recovery over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    I can agree with you there about the lies. Lets start with the last administration first.
    Just file a complaint with the BAR association where he is licensed to practice law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    The activities list from the dept of ed is just that. Did you read it? it's asking basic comprehension questions, what did it mean to you? NOTHING about paramilitary organization! That is what Hitler Youth was (paramilitary group). Has anyone seen a Hitler Youth classroom activities guide? (I haven't)

    I'm afraid this will go in the same history book chapter as the birther movement and death panels. Far right scare tactics. Actually, that might warrant an entire book!
    It would have been okay if all activities refering to helping "Obama" were removed and replaced with helping your community, country, or yourself. It fell in line with the beginnings of what communist dictators spell out for their school children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Britton View Post
    It fell in line with the beginnings of what communist dictators spell out for their school children.

    Have any examples you can compare and contrast?
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    Just read up on your history, and see how these things develop over time.

    http://histclo.com/Youth/youth/org/n...ler/hitler.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Britton View Post
    Just read up on your history, and see how these things develop over time.

    http://histclo.com/Youth/youth/org/n...ler/hitler.htm
    This following exerpt is taken from the link you provided:

    "There was to be no "intelectual" training for the boys of the New Order, he saw intelectual pursuits as damaging to German youth."

    How does that jive with Obama's message of staying in school and hittin' the books?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Britton View Post
    It would have been okay if all activities refering to helping "Obama" were removed and replaced with helping your community, country, or yourself. It fell in line with the beginnings of what communist dictators spell out for their school children.
    George H. W. Bush made almost identical comments in his speech to school children in 1991.

    Let me leave you with a simple message: Every time you walk through that classroom door, make it your mission to get a good education. Don't do it just because your parents, or even the President, tells you. Do it for yourselves. Do it for your future. And while you're at it, help a little brother or sister to learn, or maybe even Mom or Dad. Let me know how you're doing. Write me a letter -- and I'm serious about this one -- write me a letter about ways you can help us achieve our goals. I think you know the address.
    When Bush said it, no one thought it smacked of indoctrination into a Hitler Youth like movement. It was an innocuous statement then, just like it was when Obama had it in his original speech.

    It has gotten ridicules that almost everything Obama says or does gets distorted into being part of some insidious plot. Actually, the only ones I see trying to indoctrinate and brainwash people are the nut cases like Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Hannity and others preaching their Obama socialist conspiracy and racism propaganda. I just hope most “reasonable” people won’t be so easily misled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstone View Post
    George H. W. Bush made almost identical comments in his speech to school children in 1991.



    When Bush said it, no one thought it smacked of indoctrination into a Hitler Youth like movement. It was an innocuous statement then, just like it was when Obama had it in his original speech.

    It has gotten ridicules that almost everything Obama says or does gets distorted into being part of some insidious plot. Actually, the only ones I see trying to indoctrinate and brainwash people are the nut cases like Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Hannity and others preaching their Obama socialist conspiracy and racism propaganda. I just hope most “reasonable” people won’t be so easily misled.
    And Randi Rhodes, Jeanine Garafalo, and Al Franken with the rest of the Air America crew dont preach the same type of garble from the left...each side has their political commentators..just because you dont agree with their message that doesnt make them " nut cases "
    its really what living in America is all about. Be very thankful that we live in a country where you still get a choice of who you want to listen to,just because you dont agree with them doesnt mean they are wrong
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