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    I just finished watching 4 talking heads on a news show. The topic was racism. According to the 3 darker colored skinned people,,,those who partisipated in the tea party rallies are mostly racist. Anytime you disagree with this administration you are a racist.
    I dont even know what a racist is anymore. I thought it was someone who hated other races for no apparent reason.

    can someone tell me what a liberal means when they call someone a racist.
    I dont know to many consevative racists but most liberals seem full of hate. Are they racists by nature?
    I eagerly await an explaination.
    Thanks Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I just finished watching 4 talking heads on a news show. The topic was racism. According to the 3 darker colored skinned people,,,those who partisipated in the tea party rallies are mostly racist. Anytime you disagree with this administration you are a racist.
    I dont even know what a racist is anymore. I thought it was someone who hated other races for no apparent reason.

    can someone tell me what a liberal means when they call someone a racist.
    I dont know to many consevative racists but most liberals seem full of hate. Are they racists by nature?
    I eagerly await an explaination.
    Thanks Pete

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    Sir, I believe I saw the very same broadcast, my count was two vs two.
    One at each end of the pole and two straddling the middle just either side of the centre line...sounded like balanced and fair to me, I heard no hate being spewed. Seemed so balanced and fair I had to check the channel header to be certain I wasn't on a Canadian channel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    If you trully had some basis for your statement,

    "there has to be some reason for this"

    you would not cut and run.

    Please explain. I'll not call you names. You said these matters may not be discussed. Why?

    JD
    Maybe he read The Bell Curve JD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    I love our history.

    I love the fact that a bunch of white slave-owning guys got together and laid the original foundation for equality among sexes and races and religions even though that was not the practice at the time.

    I love the fact that the country fought a civil war, threatening the very existence of our country, in part to end the practice of slavery and that slavery was, in fact, ended.

    I love the fact that a bunch of white men on the Supreme Court overthrew precedent in support of equality, and I love the fact that a Texas bigot, who used his power in Congress to thwart efforts to make lynching illegal, ended up as the champion of civil rights and a champion of services for the poor.

    I love the fact that a shoe salesman from Missouri ended the unconscionable segregation of our army. I love the fact that a conservative movie star used his power as President to offer amnesty to persons who had entered our country illegally but contributed to the country, obeyed our laws and paid our taxes. And finally, I am proud that despite the doubts of many, the people of our country overcame centuries of prejudice to elect a black man as President because they thought he was the better candidate.

    I am very proud of our history as a nation and hopeful for our future. I wonder at times how you seem to believe that those who help make our history are now traitors to it.
    And I wonder at times why you don't think someone could indeed make history in one regard yet be a traitor to it in another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I just finished watching 4 talking heads on a news show. The topic was racism. According to the 3 darker colored skinned people,,,those who partisipated in the tea party rallies are mostly racist. Anytime you disagree with this administration you are a racist.
    I dont even know what a racist is anymore. I thought it was someone who hated other races for no apparent reason.

    can someone tell me what a liberal means when they call someone a racist.
    I dont know to many consevative racists but most liberals seem full of hate. Are they racists by nature?
    I eagerly await an explaination.
    Thanks Pete

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    Then google it Pete. Make up your own mind, what it is and isn't. Kinda like intimidation on the line, hard to define...but you know it when you see
    it. Like porn ya know, but it can be much more subtle.
    Racism isn't always hateful, but the effect can be the same.

    What do you mean when you call someone a "liberal"? Is it a predetermined set of expectations on your part?
    If I refer to someone on this board as racist, or merely prejudicial, is there a difference in your mind?
    If I question the statements of some other poster on this board, am I challenging their premise or their racial orientation?
    Whadda you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    For this article Buchanan earns a truly special niche in Hell. This should be a spot where he can watch his children be kidnapped, sold, placed into the holds of ships and, if they are among the "lucky" ones they may survive heat, starvation and disease to reach the golden shores of America to which they should offer prayers of gratitude.

    There he should be forced to watch as they are sold off as chattel and then bred selectively over generations for those special traits that make a good slave: strong back, trainability, ability to accept pressure without responding aggressively.

    I suspect then that there were as many different types of breeders then as there are now with our retrievers. The elite who might give all the attention to breeding a good slave that they would to breeding a good hunting dog. Those equivalent to today's puppy mills, breeding for volume and quick sales. And even some back yard breeders asking around their neighbors for a good stud to match up with that special little girl before she gets too old.

    Let Buchanan watch that from his niche in Hell, ever thankful that in return his children are being introduced to a white God and preachers who will help his children accept their industrious role as slaves. After four, five or six generations watching his children and his grandchildren and their children and so forth being bred like so many dogs, let Buchanan watch through the years of Reconstruction when the promise of 40 acres and a mule rapidly turned into a world of horror where former slaves remained for the next 40 years under controls as rigid as those they faced under slavery. And while the situation improved over the next hundred years, there is no quick correction for all those generations of special breeding and special "education".

    And to counter this what does Buchanan say are the benefits for which blacks should be grateful? Blacks in this country fared better than blacks in the other African countries that were conquered and exploited viciously by the colonial powers eager to control their natural resources. Grateful for their religious conversion at the end of a whip? Grateful for the destruction of their language and culture, for the selling off of their children, for centuries of inadequate education? Let Buchanan watch his children go through that experience generation after generation and then let him bow down and tell us all "Thanks".

    This is one of the most outrageously ethnocentric and arrogant articles I have ever read. Next we'll see cartoons of Buchanan carrying a cross with a black man nailed to it and the slogan "The White Man's Burden." Let him roast in Hell, watching his children in all their generations going through that experience he now praises.
    Jeff, you have lost your mind. You are focusing on things that happened 150 years ago as if it is current state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by subroc View Post
    Jeff, you have lost your mind. You are focusing on things that happened 150 years ago as if it is current state.
    Hey, talk to Buchanan. He was the one suggesting that blacks should be thanking whites for having saved them by bringing them over to be slaves.

    Quote Originally Posted by M&K's Retrievers View Post
    Yeah, just ask those firemen who didn't get their promotions based on a ruling by a judge who is probably a product of Affirmative Action..
    Their case is actually a perfect example. A test was given with multiple sections. To calculate an aggregate score, different weights were assigned to each section. Those weighting were not published in advance and were not, in fact, the result of any analysis or any particular discussion. When scores were calculated, it was found that no blacks had passed. By law and Supreme Court precedent, discrimination may be measured by:
    • an overtly discriminatory process
    • a clear discriminatory result
    In the event that either of these occurs, the burden of proof is on the employer to demonstrate that the test is a fair measure of qualification for the position. If it cannot, the test is thrown out and they start over or correct the observed discrimination. In this case, the town counsel reviewed the weightings assigned on the test and determined that they had no foundation at all. If weightings were changed to ones that were believed to be equally valid, the rankings on the list were affected in a manner that eliminated the discriminatory result. That is what they did. The individuals selected for promotion under the original weightings sued. In accordance with precendents, the district and appellate courts ruled against them and in favor of the town. The Supreme Court overturned precedent cases and returned the case to lower courts. If the candidiates that failed the test choose to do so they probably have a strong case for overturning the result anyway. Why? Because the weightings used to rank test results had no relationship whatsoever to job performance or qualification and had a discriminatory impact. In my opinion, if you grade people based on a test that fails all blacks, and you cannot justify that test on any grounds related to the decision being made, it should be thrown out. How would you feel if you were applying for a job as a cop and were told that the people hired would be those who were the best basketball players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    If you trully had some basis for your statement,

    "there has to be some reason for this"

    you would not cut and run.

    Please explain. I'll not call you names. You said these matters may not be discussed. Why?

    JD
    Well the other possibility would be lack of work ethic as a people. I believe it is lack of effort due to having a built in excuse (racism) for any and all things that go wrong, or lack of advancement. It's human nature for people to look for a reason outside themselves for failure. With decades of public opportunity weighted in their favor isn't that at least a possibility.

    My opinion on this is based on observing my own family (white trash) and other families around them not advancing for generations. They live in a medium sized town where the family name is well known. Anything that is wrong in a large % of their lives is blamed on their last name, it's a crutch. Don't have a job "nobody will hire me because I'm an Isaacs";but they haven't even looked for one, and don't have the skills that come with a work history. Got arrested "cops picking on me because I'm an Isaacs";couldn't be because you walked up to a cop drunk off your ass with a bag of weed hanging out of your pocket; bad grades in school " teachers don't like me because I'm an Isaacs" couldn't have been because you didn't do your homework one time all year.

    The kids in the family hear this and think giving it any effort is a waste of time. They think that the system is so weighted against them that they can't succeed. That is what this constant blaming on racism is doing the the black community. In some cases there is some discrimination against people in my family based on name, I felt it a few times as a kid. The vast majority of the time though, it is looking so hard to find something to blame lack of effort on, that they manage to find it.

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    Well said, Hoosier.
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    Sir, I believe I saw the very same broadcast, my count was two vs two.
    One at each end of the pole and two straddling the middle just either side of the centre line...sounded like balanced and fair to me, I heard no hate being spewed. Seemed so balanced and fair I had to check the channel header to be certain I wasn't on a Canadian channel
    Yes the moderater appeared to be neutral unless you can read faces and inflections.
    The questions asked and the eyes told a different story. She was much more goo goo eyed listening to her guests who she secretly agreed with. Its so obvious. Now I could call that white racism if I follow their logic. Unfortunately logic and rational is severly lacking these days on the far left.

    Its oviously pure hatred in the heart of a man when someone says I'm against all these social programs and the first thing that comes out of the oponents mouth is racism is the cause behind it..

    My perception anyway.

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