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    How exactly do you save money, and run up the national debt at the same time? We're really just talking about not running the debt as fast (when we're talking about savings) as we could be running it up aren't we?

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    Nonsense!





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    Jeff-

    Have you seen the Senate bill? No one else has, including the members of the Senate Finance Committee. They'd like your copy please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Johnson View Post
    Jeff-

    Have you seen the Senate bill? No one else has, including the members of the Senate Finance Committee. They'd like your copy please.

    Eric
    There is no legislative language yet but there is a very detailed markup that would be the basis for drafting legislative language (this is not an uncommon approach). The markup (223 pages long) is at (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/11382446...ll---Full-Text) and the Baucus white paper detailing the components of the plan is at (http://finance.senate.gov/healthrefo...whitepaper.pdf). Both are as of 9/22/09 and there have been numerous amendments in committee. The CBO report was based on the 9/22 documents as far as I know. By the way, I have a number of reservations about the Senate bill and generally believe it is worse than the House Bill.

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    You guys are missing the entire point. obongocare is just like the Nobel Prize. All you have to do is tell everyone how good it will be and BANG there it is......good as gold we can print and spend as much as we want because we are being told it will actually save money so it must be so....can obongo win another NPP next year for healthcare visions?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    There is no legislative language yet but there is a very detailed markup that would be the basis for drafting legislative language (this is not an uncommon approach). The markup (223 pages long) is at (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/11382446...ll---Full-Text) and the Baucus white paper detailing the components of the plan is at (http://finance.senate.gov/healthrefo...whitepaper.pdf). Both are as of 9/22/09 and there have been numerous amendments in committee. The CBO report was based on the 9/22 documents as far as I know. By the way, I have a number of reservations about the Senate bill and generally believe it is worse than the House Bill.
    Wasn't the number of amendments that was mentioned something like 534? Heck, if every amendment was only 1 page, it would be double the size of the original markup

    Anybody know what it costs now? Probably won't matter since it will be different by tomorrow; and by the time they actually vote on it.

    Begins to look a little bit like a shell game ... except nobody, even the ones manipulating the shells, know where the pea will turn up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    There is no legislative language yet but there is a very detailed markup that would be the basis for drafting legislative language (this is not an uncommon approach). The markup (223 pages long) is at (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/11382446...ll---Full-Text) and the Baucus white paper detailing the components of the plan is at (http://finance.senate.gov/healthrefo...whitepaper.pdf). Both are as of 9/22/09 and there have been numerous amendments in committee. The CBO report was based on the 9/22 documents as far as I know. By the way, I have a number of reservations about the Senate bill and generally believe it is worse than the House Bill.

    Markup...schmarkup......thats BOGUS........it's uncommon in that the SFC is the ONLY finance committee that uses this procedure.

    In this age of government transparency and NOT government as usual, you'd think they could actually use legislative language for all folks to read.

    But then we know that all that is a LIE.
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