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    Quote Originally Posted by ducknwork View Post
    I have asked before and not received an answer. How much do the wars contribute to our economy? Perhaps enough to offset the cost?

    Also, I don't know how much truth there is to it, but I was complaining to an old guy at work one day about the space program and he said that for every dollar spent on it, it creates 4 to 5 dollars in the private sector.

    Hey, if that is the case all we need to do is start more wars. Just think what a war with North Korea, China, Iran, Cuba, Russia and Pakistan would do to boost our economy.

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    Also, I don't know how much truth there is to it, but I was complaining to an old guy at work one day about the space program and he said that for every dollar spent on it, it creates 4 to 5 dollars in the private sector.
    I expect it would be hard to support that.

    I believe:

    As far as the space program goes, sending humans to other worlds is folly.

    If an understanding of space is the goal, the hubble, on the otherhand gives lots of bang for the buck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by subroc View Post
    I expect it would be hard to support that.

    I believe:

    As far as the space program goes, sending humans to other worlds is folly.

    If an understanding of space is the goal, the hubble, on the otherhand gives lots of bang for the buck.
    Don't get me wrong. I think going to space is stupid. I don't see the point of spending billions or trillions to crash something into another planet or the moon. I was simply stating what I heard, because I thought someone else may have heard it as well.

    If our resident Jeopardy champ (Yardley) was here, I am sure that he would know the truth off of the top of his head.
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    Also, I don't know how much truth there is to it, but I was complaining to an old guy at work one day about the space program and he said that for every dollar spent on it, it creates 4 to 5 dollars in the private sector.
    In the early days of NASA, I do believe that the research also yielded items that were applicable to civilian use. Miniaturization to conserve weight in the space missions is one thing that comes to mind.

    This return on investment may not have remained constant in more recent years.
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    Velcro and tang come to mind.

    Nowadays, I don't think that pioneer spirit is driving NASA, or the funding behind it. Ever since the space shuttle was launched, (or maybe long before) the space program has been about military advantage. GPS and satellite imaging are just two examples. Being able to predict weather more accurately is also of vital tactical importance. In all honesty, NASA should probably be a DoD subsidiary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Velcro and tang come to mind.

    Nowadays, I don't think that pioneer spirit is driving NASA, or the funding behind it. Ever since the space shuttle was launched, (or maybe long before) the space program has been about military advantage. GPS and satellite imaging are just two examples. Being able to predict weather more accurately is also of vital tactical importance. In all honesty, NASA should probably be a DoD subsidiary.
    The majority of space shuttle launches have had no military components to them. A third or so of them have had some military aspect to them. Only a handful of shuttle missions have been exclusively military. The Air Force has its own launch platforms for getting most of its hardware into space. But yes, NASA does work closely with the military.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hew View Post
    The majority of space shuttle launches have had no military components to them.
    Sure they don't. The DoD is so careful to tell us about all their missions...esp ones involving Space Command and espionage devices.

    I'm all for every advantage we can get, nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying NASA is an operative of the DoD, and that's ok. Easier to justify national security than Buck Rogers exploration. GPS wasn't conceived and funded for geocachers and Garmin Nuvi's in your Subaru!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    I'm just saying NASA is an operative of the DoD, and that's ok.
    And I'm just saying that you're wrong. And that's ok, too. When standing in a hole, your motto is, "Dig faster!"

    BTW, you don't have to be able to walk out your front door for a pretty nice view of every launch, or duck hunt on NASA property within sight of the shuttle launch pads, or even have a number of friends and hunting pards who work at Kennedy Space Center to know that NASA isn't just a tool of the DoD. The information is readily available on the ol' interweb.
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    Hey, I knew a guy who swept floors at the Pentagon, does that make me an expert privvy to the inner workings of the CIA? I used to hunt on Ft. Bliss and could see Patriot missiles, maybe I should start a consulting firm based on my knowledge?

    Don't believe everything you read on the web regards....including this.
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