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    I wonder how long it will take the so-called "independants" to realize the direction America is going?

    There is no reason to ever believe the sycophants of the Obama doctrine will understand what they are doing to ruin a once great nation. So that 35% aside, will the rest of us rise up in time to stop what's happening before it is too late to salvage our liberty???, our freedoms???, our constitution?

    It's hard to remain even remotely optomistic that we can turn back the destruction we are about to witness. I suspect Atlas has already shrugged, and Humpty Dumpty is teetering precariously.

    Saddly, I'm not alone in this belief. As feared, the corrupt have used the class envy to gain power over the have-nots, and the oligarchy will soon be in total control. I wish you "independants" well. As quickly as this "change" is occurring, the time to explain it all to your grandkids will be just around the corner. I "hope" they understand.

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    The Entitlement Generation

    "The American" makes Endangered Species List!

    By JB Williams

    This column is the subject of a book I am working to finish, as justice
    to this topic cannot be done in a single column, or even a short series
    of columns.

    But it is such a pressing matter at this moment in American history that
    I didn't want to wait for book publication to address the very real
    threat to freedom inherent with the death of uniquely American
    principles and values.

    "The American" is officially on the list of endangered species today,
    and unless we do something to save this vital species quickly, freedom
    will exist nowhere on earth. Doubt this statement for even a second, at
    your own peril!

    After 232 years of unparalleled freedom, liberty and prosperity, the
    United States of America is on the brink of collapse. Yes, in part due
    to evil political forces who long ago sold their souls for an ounce of
    wealth and power, pushing the nation into a corner to further their
    quest for even more power-but to a larger degree, due to the decline of
    the American spirit from sea to shining sea.

    The land of the free and home of the brave is now controlled by the
    entitlement generation. That magical generation that comes along in
    every free society, once the people at large have forgotten the price
    and value of individual freedom.

    Once the people have been trained to despise that which we all once held
    in common, the love of freedom and liberty, and focus all attention upon
    that which divides, our racial, religious, sexual and economic
    "diversity," placing that which divides us above that which once united
    us, the nation cannot stand!

    Class envy becomes the driving force in all political decisions. Deep
    seated division and dissention rule the day and people look to take that
    which they feel entitled to, from those who used their freedom to
    "earn."

    To be sure, we currently have the most corrupt anti-American government
    in the history of the United States. But what bothers me more is how we
    got here, and how the decline of "Americanism" is likely to make matters
    much worse, before things can get any better.

    At the end of the day, the American people get the government they vote
    for, and today too many Americans are voting for a government that
    promises "free stuff" in place of "freedom." There is no running from
    this reality.

    As is the purpose of a good vacation, I had the opportunity to leave the
    phone, email and news behind and spend a few days in the sun and surf
    with my family. It gave me an opportunity to clear the cobwebs. It also
    provided an unexpected but interesting lesson which I want to share with
    readers.

    Years ago, you couldn't get a half a mile off shore in the Gulf of
    Mexico without having a family of dolphin swim up beside the boat and
    almost leap into the boat and pop a top with ya. This time, the dolphin
    wouldn't come within twenty feet of the boat, and I couldn't help but
    wonder what had changed.

    In talking with a local area boat captain later that evening, I learned
    that the local government had outlawed feeding dolphin some years
    earlier, instituting a $10,000 fine if you are caught feeding dolphin
    even once.

    We have never fed the dolphin in the first place, but apparently, many
    others had and over time, the dolphin had become too friendly with
    boaters, too dependent upon meals from vacationers and eventually, an
    endangered species in the Gulf as the dolphin either died from a boat
    prop, or had lost the ability to feed themselves after snow birds
    returned home up north.

    The only way to save the dolphin was to outlaw the feeding of dolphin,
    so that these beautiful mammals could regain their ability to survive in
    the wild.

    And then it hit me, how odd that we were able to figure out the damage
    done to dolphins by making them dependent upon "free food" - but could
    not make the same judgment in light of the life long damage done to
    entire generations of human beings, by the same mistakes that had cost
    dolphins and many other species their very lives, to the point of
    extinction in some cases.

    I began to wonder why we were intelligent enough to recognize the
    dangers involved in free-feeding dolphins, but not see the same dangers
    involved in free-feeding human beings, creating the same kind of
    dependencies that put many other species on the endangered list.

    Then I realized - if dolphins could vote, it would still be legal to
    feed them...

    Welfare is not an act of personal generosity. It is a political strategy
    for gaining and holding power.

    Charity requires the consent of the giver, without which, it's tyranny,
    not charity.

    Today's "left" (the current cabal running Washington DC) is only
    generous with the earnings and assets of others. How many times do we
    have to see the embarrassing charitable donations, or lack thereof, in
    people who preach about welfare the most?

    Barack Obama and Joe Biden have the worst history of personal charitable
    giving of any two men to ever enter the White House, yet they are the
    most "welfare" minded individuals in US history. Though they have a
    dismal record of giving personally, they demand that all others make
    sacrifices for the "needy," which they have never made individually.

    As I have said before, welfare is not an act of charity or generosity.
    It is an act of tyranny against America's most productive, and a
    political strategy aimed at empowering people like Obama and Biden, not
    average citizens.

    If dolphins could vote, we would be encouraged to feed them in order to
    gain their political support, and in the end, their political dependency
    upon those who promise to feed them forever.

    But since dolphins can't vote, we can't free-feed them.

    Since government dependents make perfect Democrat voters, we must
    continue to feed them even though the result is an entire generation of
    entitled dependents increasingly unable to feed themselves in the wild.

    The end result is a dying breed in the land of the free and home of the
    brave. "The American" is officially on the endangered species list as a
    species no longer as interested in personal freedom as socio-economic
    equality - A growing number of Americans who have been trained by their
    feeders to feel entitled to the spoils of others who have toiled and
    sacrificed for the natural fruits of their labor.

    So long as American citizens continue to choose the life of a parasite,
    free-feeding upon the benefits earned by others, they will continue to
    vote their feeders into power. For a time, this will seem a fantastic
    victory for the "have-nots" until the atrophy of individual survival
    skills sets in, and the "haves" opt out, leaving the feeding trough
    empty.

    What happens next will shock many Americans. When those who have been
    trained not to feed themselves are no longer being fed by others, they
    will first turn to violence, and then, begin to die completely
    ill-prepared to survive on their own.

    What has been done to this generation of American citizens, all in an
    evil political strategy aimed at empowering the political elite while
    enslaving both "haves" and "have-nots," is nothing short of criminal.

    If there is a $10,000 fine for free-feeding dolphin, there should be
    mandatory life imprisonment for those who insist upon free-feeding human
    beings. Destroying the life of a dolphin is bad enough, but doing even
    worse to human beings is unforgivable.

    In the end, nobody will react more violently than those who were so
    easily fooled by the promise of free-stuff. None will be more aggressive
    in their demands for access to the earnings of others. - None will pay a
    greater price for the disaster they created either!
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    Thousands of years ago, the first man discovered how to make fire. He was probably burned at the stake he had taught his brothers to light, but he left them a gift they had not conceived, and he lifted darkness off the earth.
    Throughout the centuries, there were men who took first steps down new roads, armed with nothing but their own vision. The great creators -- the thinkers, the artists, the scientists, the inventors -- stood alone against the men of their time. Every new thought was opposed; every new invention was denounced. But the men of unborrowed vision went ahead. They fought, they suffered, and they paid. But they won.
    No creator was prompted by a desire to please his brothers. His brothers hated the gift he offered.
    His truth was his only motive.
    His work was his only goal.
    His work -- not those who used it.
    His creation -- not the benefits others derived from it -- the creation which gave form to his truth.
    He held his truth above all things and against all men. He went ahead whether others agreed with him or not, with his integrity as his only banner. He served nothing and no one. He lived for himself. And only by living for himself was he able to achieve the things which are the glory of mankind. Such is the nature of achievement. Man cannot survive except through his mind. He comes on earth unarmed. His brain is his only weapon. But the mind is an attribute of the individual. There is no such thing as a collective brain. The man who thinks must think and act on his own. The reasoning mind cannot work under any form of compulsion. It cannot be subordinated to the needs, opinions, or wishes of others. It is not an object of sacrifice.

    The creator stands on his own judgment; the parasite follows the opinions of others.
    The creator thinks; the parasite copies.
    The creator produces; the parasite loots.
    The creator's concern is the conquest of nature; the parasite's concern is the conquest of men.
    The creator requires independence. He neither serves nor rules. He deals with men by free exchange and voluntary choice.
    The parasite seeks power. He wants to bind all men together in common action and common slavery. He claims that man is only a tool for the use of others -- that he must think as they think, act as they act, and live in selfless, joyless servitude to any need but his own.
    Look at history: Everything we have, every great achievement has come from the independent work of some independent mind. Every horror and destruction came from attempts to force men into a herd of brainless, soulless robots -- without personal rights, without person ambition, without will, hope, or dignity.
    It is an ancient conflict. It has another name: "The individual against the collective."
    Our country, the noblest country in the history of men, was based on the principle of individualism, the principle of man's "inalienable rights." It was a country where a man was free to seek his own happiness, to gain and produce, not to give up and renounce; to prosper, not to starve; to achieve, not to plunder; to hold as his highest possession a sense of his personal value, and as his highest virtue his self-respect.
    Look at the results. That is what the collectivists are now asking you to destroy, as much of the earth has been destroyed.
    I am an architect. I know what is to come by the principle on which it is built. We are approaching a world in which I cannot permit myself to live. My ideas are my property. They were taken from me by force, by breach of contract. No appeal was left to me.
    It was believed that my work belonged to others, to do with as they pleased. They had a claim upon me without my consent -- that it was my duty to serve them without choice or reward.
    Now you know why a dynamited Courtland. I designed Courtland. I made it possible. I destroyed it. I agreed to design it for the purpose of it seeing built as I wished. That was the price I set for my work. I was not paid. My building was disfigured at the whim of others who took all the benefits of my work and gave me nothing in return.
    I came here to say that I do not recognize anyone's right to one minute of my life, nor to any part of my energy, nor to any achievement of mine -- no matter who makes the claim!
    It had to be said: The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing. I came here to be heard in the name of every man of independence still left in the world. I wanted to state my terms. I do not care to work or live on any others.
    My terms are: A man's RIGHT to exist for his own sake.
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    George Bush and Dick Cheney have done more to ruin our Country than any President/Vice- President before them. I am not saying that Obama is going to be the savior, but we have a long way to go to dig ourselves out of the hole Bush/Cheney have left us in. If you think that McCain/Palin could have done better with the mess we were left in, you are sadly mistaken.

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    Roger,
    I'm starting to think that you don't really like George Bush and Dick Cheney very much.


    But seriously, does everything for you boil down to what the Bush administration did? Can you have a conversation about anything political without having to regurgitate your views on Bush? Why not take a minute to think about where we are, why and what we should do to make our country better? If you agree with Obama's policies, that's fine. Why not tell us what you agree with and how you think it makes us better. Other than his being someone other than Bush, Cheney, McCain or Palin, what makes him a good President? How am I going to be better off in 4 years than I am today? But more importantly, how is my country going to be better off in 4 years? You and I are on opposite ends of the political spectrum, but I'm not a big GWB fan and I'm certainly not a John McCain fan. But I can't agree with the liberal policies of our current President and Congress. Rather than spewing a bunch of negative stuff about the last administration, why not occasionally show us something positive about the current one? Just a suggestion.
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    Its important to not forget what happened over the past decade, in order to help shape our future, not for the sake of just piling onto Bush. Our country was headed for disaster, and may still be, but at least now someone has at least admitted we have a problem. Do you remember John McCain stating "the fundamentals of the economy are strong?" For HIM, they were. But as he lavished in his 9, 10, or was it 12 homes, working Americans were going into forclosure and losing jobs by the hundreds of thousands, and still are. Like an alcoholic, the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. I didn't see Bush or McCain, or any republican candidate take that first step. As bad as things still are, I shudder to think where we would be headed with more of the past 8 years policies in effect. This vessel was headed in the wrong direction, but just because your cranking on the wheel, doesn't mean it's going to turn around right away. We need to reel in spending, and unfortunately, tax cuts are a form of spending. We need to cut spending, and realize we're all gonna have to pay for the recent deficit spending, if we ever want to climb out of this hole. (and figure out how to get jobs back here!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Our country was headed for disaster, and may still be, but at least now someone has at least admitted we have a problem. Do you remember John McCain stating "the fundamentals of the economy are strong?" Right on, dude. Nevermind that not long after that Obama said the same thing:
    "After this immediate problem, we've got the long-term fundamentals that will really make sure this economy grows."

    And not long after that, an Obama economic advisor told the Wash. Post: "This is a major fiscal problem in the short run, but it doesn't alter the long-term fiscal picture."

    And just this past March the Chair of of Obama's Council of Economic Advisors blurted out, "Of course, the fundamentals are sound,..."

    But sure, it's so much funner to pretend that McCain was an ostrich and didn't see any problems with the economy.

    For HIM, they were. But as he lavished in his 9, 10, or was it 12 homes, working Americans were going into forclosure and losing jobs by the hundreds of thousands, and still are. Like an alcoholic, the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. And Obama was "lavishing" in the hood, packing his lunch to his hammer swingin' job every day just trying to pay the landlord and knew just how the little people felt.
    I didn't see Bush or McCain, or any republican candidate take that first step. You weren't paying attention then. Bush is the one who started the slide of bailouts and takeovers...Obama took the ball, added a few more trillion dollars, and ran with it. As bad as things still are, I shudder to think where we would be headed with more of the past 8 years policies in effect. This vessel was headed in the wrong direction, but just because your cranking on the wheel, doesn't mean it's going to turn around right away. We need to reel in spending, and unfortunately, tax cuts are a form of spending. We need to cut spending, and realize we're all gonna have to pay for the recent deficit spending, if we ever want to climb out of this hole. (and figure out how to get jobs back here!) Exactly. And what better way to "reel in" and "cut" spending than for you to cheerlead for Obama's bloated, deficit exploding domestic agenda at the same time you countelssly rehash everyting Bush (oh, I'm sorry, President Bush...I forgot to follow your lead about always conveying respect to the office)
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    "Exactly. And what better way to "reel in" and "cut" spending than for you to cheerlead for Obama's bloated, deficit exploding domestic agenda at the same time you countelssly rehash everyting Bush (oh, I'm sorry, President Bush...I forgot to follow your lead about always conveying respect to the office)"

    Hew, if you think you heard me "cheerleading" the massive spending budgets of Obama, you're either projecting your prejudices onto me, or hearing voices in your head. Better make sure you didn't mix up your medications again. Obama's continuation of Bush's policy of massive deficit spending is my biggest gripe.

    And I only bring up the past as it relates to the future, I think that was clear. You strategically edited out my first sentence, that appears below:

    "Its important to not forget what happened over the past decade, in order to help shape our future, not for the sake of just piling onto Bush."

    I'll give you a nickel everytime I mention Bush, if you give me a nickel for every time Clinton was brought up after he left office. Even Clinton joked that for years he thought he was still president when he saw the morning headlines!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    George Bush and Dick Cheney have done more to ruin our Country than any President/Vice- President before them. I am not saying that Obama is going to be the savior, but we have a long way to go to dig ourselves out of the hole Bush/Cheney have left us in. If you think that McCain/Palin could have done better with the mess we were left in, you are sadly mistaken.
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