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    4) Is it "arrogant" or "ignorant" for someone to not realize that they need health insurance?[/quote]

    IT is arrogant of the gov't to tell me what level or type of health insurance I need.!

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    Julie, glad to see you're posting your funny images and emoticons once again. I was afraid maybe you'd gotten a smackdown from the mods.
    Anyway, the house narrowly passing this watered down HC bill does not mean we're on our way to socialized HC. It has a long way to go, and I believe that the efforts of the right will result (if it happens at all) in the passage of a HC reform bill that pretty much maintains the status quo. I too am dissappointed. I really hoped for a full blown, single payer healthcare revision that would bring us on par with the other industrialized nations. Oh well, it's a start, and without a toe in the door...?where would we be?
    The effort at HC reform might not be so much as to give coverage to illegals, and those that do not deserve it, merit it, or want it, as it might be to cover some of the 10.2% who have lost it. I have in-laws in that unfortunate position,(formally staunch repubs, well not so much now).
    They're lucky though, they'll qualify for Medicare soon, (another version of socialized medicine, that you and I both pay for if we work)(you're still working aren't you Julie?)
    We could cut funding for private military contractors to help bolster medicare and medicaid, but that would just push the unemployment numbers higher, Eh? No easy answers.
    Just continue to hate, and fear, and loath. That'll get us somewhere, huh?

    That's enough for now...JD
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    Julie, glad to see you're posting your funny images and emoticons once again. I was afraid maybe you'd gotten a smackdown from the mods.
    Anyway, the house narrowly passing this watered down HC bill does not mean we're on our way to socialized HC. It has a long way to go, and I believe that the efforts of the right will result (if it happens at all) in the passage of a HC reform bill that pretty much maintains the status quo. I too am dissappointed. I really hoped for a full blown, single payer healthcare revision that would bring us on par with the other industrialized nations. Oh well, it's a start, and without a toe in the door...?where would we be?
    The effort at HC reform might not be so much as to give coverage to illegals, and those that do not deserve it, merit it, or want it, as it might be to cover some of the 10.2% who have lost it. I have in-laws in that unfortunate position,(formally staunch repubs, well not so much now).
    They're lucky though, they'll qualify for Medicare soon, (another version of socialized medicine, that you and I both pay for if we work)(you're still working aren't you Julie?)
    We could cut funding for private military contractors to help bolster medicare and medicaid, but that would just push the unemployment numbers higher, Eh? No easy answers.
    Just continue to hate, and fear, and loath. That'll get us somewhere, huh?

    That's enough for now...JD

    THE GOV"T BETTER STAY THE HECK OUT OF MY HEALTHCARE!!!!!!
    Single payer is socialism, and I will be one of the ones that fight it to the death!!!!!!

    I will defend the letter of the constitution and not bow down to Tyrany!!!!!
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    I sure am glad this thread stayed on topic and didn't resort to racist photoshops! Notice I said "didn't". There's NOTHING racist about showing the president in tribal garb with teeth stuck through his nose. No sir!
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmylabs23139 View Post
    THE GOV"T BETTER STAY THE HECK OUT OF MY HEALTHCARE!!!!!!
    Single payer is socialism, and I will be one of the ones that fight it to the death!!!!!!

    I will defend the letter of the constitution and not bow down to Tyrany!!!!!
    I'll say it again, and say it slowly. Medicare and medicaide are socialist programs. My mother counts on her Medicare. As the retired widow of a government employee, (state dept.) she gets continued HC benefits. Even those are not enough without supplemental coverages.
    Will you luvmylabs decline medicare when it becomes avaiable to you? (I don't know your age, but will you?)
    In the mean time calm down. we have already started the march to socialized medicine. It's just that now you need to be old to capitalize on it. Why not make it available to all? My mother's doctor's, and many others, submit claims to the US Gov for subsidation of HC costs. It has been for so long now that we think Medicare has always been. It has not.
    No one's freedoms have been lost.
    Well no more so than we lost our freedom' than when we instituted a Dept of Homeland security and started taking our shoes off at the airport to make ourselves more secure

    Gimme a break,

    JD
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    I'll say it again, and say it slowly. Medicare and medicaide are socialist programs. My mother counts on her Medicare. As the retired widow of a government employee, (state dept.) she gets continued HC benefits. Even those are not enough without supplemental coverages.
    Will you luvmylabs decline medicare when it becomes avaiable to you? (I don't know your age, but will you?)
    In the mean time calm down. we have already started the march to socialized medicine. It's just that now you need to be old to capitalize on it. Why not make it available to all? My mother's doctor's, and many others, submit claims to the US Gov for subsidation of HC costs. It has been for so long now that we think Medicare has always been. It has not.
    No one's freedoms have been lost.
    Well no more so than we lost our freedom' than when we instituted a Dept of Homeland security and started taking our shoes off at the airport to make ourselves more secure




    Gimme a break,

    JD
    The gov't steals my money for medicare, I pay so I darn better get what they hijacked from me.
    Medicaid, I pay, thru gov't theft but get nothing in return, while those that pay nothing get MY EARNED MONEY!!! THAT IS THEFT AND BS SOCIALISM>
    THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO MY MONEY!
    I don't want more theft.
    If someone broke into my house to steal I can legally defend my property with deadly force in my state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    (you're still working aren't you Julie?)
    Dog, I've never worked. I'm living large off public assistance which gives me time to go hug trees and watch my flat screen TV and post stuff on dog forums. I don't even own a dog, I'm a cat person.

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    Juli
    Thats funny stuff right there
    I dint see as a racist poke, rather Obamas healthcare is similar to witchdoctory.
    Dave
    It would look silly if you dressed a white guy in that garb wouldnt it,, is dressing a white dude in a red flannel shirt,cowboy boots and an elmer fud hat racist.

    I still have no idea what racism is.
    I always thought it was hating a particular race.

    If she had a picture of a black dude in his fancy cloths,with corn rows and a grill is that racism. if so I know alot of black people that hate themselves.
    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmylabs23139 View Post
    The gov't steals my money for medicare, I pay so I darn better get what they hijacked from me.
    Medicaid, I pay, thru gov't theft but get nothing in return, while those that pay nothing get MY EARNED MONEY!!! THAT IS THEFT AND BS SOCIALISM>
    THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO MY MONEY!
    I don't want more theft.
    If someone broke into my house to steal I can legally defend my property with deadly force in my state.
    Please keep your guns in your closet 23139 The revnoor's aren't comin to get you. Well not yet anyway. We all have money withheld from our paychecks that we agree or don't agree is legitimate. Our protests fall mostly on deaf ears. Bummer. When you threaten to respond with violence, you draw more attention to yourself. The internet, and indeed this forum are most likely monitored by the people whose job it is to do so.
    Be circumspect in your posting's now brother, they are out to get you, Ya know!

    JD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Juli
    Thats funny stuff right there
    I dint see as a racist poke, rather Obamas healthcare is similar to witchdoctory.
    Dave
    It would look silly if you dressed a white guy in that garb wouldnt it,, is dressing a white dude in a red flannel shirt,cowboy boots and an elmer fud hat racist.

    I still have no idea what racism is.
    I always thought it was hating a particular race.

    If she had a picture of a black dude in his fancy cloths,with corn rows and a grill is that racism. if so I know alot of black people that hate themselves.
    Pete
    I said its NOT racist! Neither are the watermelon and fried chicken dollar bills. Neither was the comment about the escaped gorilla being Michelle's relative. Just good ol' boy jokin' around!

    OTOH, showing a white guy in hunting garb and a hat is explicitly racist, since NO guys any of us know would dress in such ridiculous, out of context attire. Especially at a hunt test, or while actually hunting!

    I'm getting the hang of the 1984-style "double-speak". It works great!
    God Bless PFC Jamie Harkness. The US Army's newest PFC, but still our neighbor's little girl!

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