Congrats Dems, Libs,Socialists, et al.

[Uncle Bill]

If Roger and his other Obama lovers continue to support Pelosi and their latest fiasco, and it manages to get passed, it will NOT be a new day for healthcare...it WILL be the end of the beginning for what America's liberty and freedoms have meant.

From the Carter era to the present, if you so-called independants think it's just business as usual, and I vote for the man, because I don't have ANY principles, and putting an Obama along with all your favorite socialist believers in office, is nothing more than..."It's our turn." Don't you have just a minor amount of fear for what you've caused to happen to this country?

You do recall the Carter era don't you? It wasn't JUST the hostages in Iran...or the failed attempt to get them out...or the 20% interest on your money...or...or..

How about this one we are still living with and paying for? Read it and weep.

UB

How Gubmint Works

Once upon a time the government had a vast scrap yard in the middle of

a desert. Congress said, "Someone may steal from it at night." So

they created a night watchman position and hired a person for the job.

Then Congress said, "How does the watchman do his job without

instruction?" So they created a planning department and hired two

people, one person to write the instructions, and one person to do

time studies.

Then Congress said, "How will we know the night watchman is doing the

tasks correctly?" So they created a Quality Control department and

hired two people. One to do the studies and one to write the reports.

Then Congress said, "How are these people going to get paid?" So They

created the following positions, a time keeper, and a payroll officer,

Then hired two people.

Then Congress said, "Who will be accountable for all of these people?"

So they created an administrative section and hired three people, an

Administrative Officer, Assistant Administrative Officer, and a Legal

Secretary.

Then Congress said, "We have had this command in operation for one

Year and we are $18,000 over budget, we must cutback overall cost."

So they laid off the night watchman!!!

NOW slowly, let it sink in.

Quietly, we go like sheep to slaughter.

Does anybody remember the reason given for the establishment of

the DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY .... During the Carter Administration?

Anybody?

Anything?

No?

Didn't think so!

Bottom line. We've spent several hundred billion dollars in support of

an agency ... the reason for which not one person who reads this can remember!

Ready??

It was very simple ... and at the time, everybody thought it very appropriate.

The Department of Energy was instituted on 8-04-1977.

TO LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL.

Hey, pretty efficient, huh???

AND NOW, IT'S 2009 -- 32 YEARS LATER -- AND THE BUDGET FOR THIS "NECESSARY" DEPARTMENT IS AT $24.2 BILLION A YEAR. THEY HAVE 16,000 FEDERAL EMPLOYEES AND APPROXIMATELY 100,000 CONTRACT EMPLOYEES; AND LOOK AT THE JOB THEY HAVE DONE! THIS IS WHERE YOU SLAP YOUR FOREHEAD AND SAY, "WHAT WAS I THINKING?"

Ah, yes -- good ole bureaucracy.

AND, NOW, WE ARE GOING TO TURN THE BANKING SYSTEM, HEALTH CARE AND THE AUTO INDUSTRY OVER TO THE SAME GOVERNMENT?

HELLOOO ! Anybody Home?

"We hang the petty thieves and appoint

the great ones to public office." Aesop

[Pete]

Thanks UB that was awesome.
But do you think a liberal is capable of understanding that.? They will tell you that the DOE has created countless jobs and is the reason we still have energy

pete

[Roger Perry]

If Roger and his other Obama lovers continue to support Pelosi and their latest fiasco, and it manages to get passed, it will NOT be a new day for healthcare...it WILL be the end of the beginning for what America's liberty and freedoms have meant.

From the Carter era to the present, if you so-called independants think it's just business as usual, and I vote for the man, because I don't have ANY principles, and putting an Obama along with all your favorite socialist believers in office, is nothing more than..."It's our turn." Don't you have just a minor amount of fear for what you've caused to happen to this country?

You do recall the Carter era don't you? It wasn't JUST the hostages in Iran...or the failed attempt to get them out...or the 20% interest on your money...or...or..

How about this one we are still living with and paying for? Read it and weep.

UB

How Gubmint Works

Once upon a time the government had a vast scrap yard in the middle of

a desert. Congress said, "Someone may steal from it at night." So

they created a night watchman position and hired a person for the job.

Then Congress said, "How does the watchman do his job without

instruction?" So they created a planning department and hired two

people, one person to write the instructions, and one person to do

time studies.

Then Congress said, "How will we know the night watchman is doing the

tasks correctly?" So they created a Quality Control department and

hired two people. One to do the studies and one to write the reports.

Then Congress said, "How are these people going to get paid?" So They

created the following positions, a time keeper, and a payroll officer,

Then hired two people.

Then Congress said, "Who will be accountable for all of these people?"

So they created an administrative section and hired three people, an

Administrative Officer, Assistant Administrative Officer, and a Legal

Secretary.

Then Congress said, "We have had this command in operation for one

Year and we are $18,000 over budget, we must cutback overall cost."

So they laid off the night watchman!!!

NOW slowly, let it sink in.

Quietly, we go like sheep to slaughter.

Does anybody remember the reason given for the establishment of

the DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY .... During the Carter Administration?

Anybody?

Anything?

No?

Didn't think so!

Bottom line. We've spent several hundred billion dollars in support of

an agency ... the reason for which not one person who reads this can remember!

Ready??

It was very simple ... and at the time, everybody thought it very appropriate.

The Department of Energy was instituted on 8-04-1977.

TO LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL.

Hey, pretty efficient, huh???

AND NOW, IT'S 2009 -- 32 YEARS LATER -- AND THE BUDGET FOR THIS "NECESSARY" DEPARTMENT IS AT $24.2 BILLION A YEAR. THEY HAVE 16,000 FEDERAL EMPLOYEES AND APPROXIMATELY 100,000 CONTRACT EMPLOYEES; AND LOOK AT THE JOB THEY HAVE DONE! THIS IS WHERE YOU SLAP YOUR FOREHEAD AND SAY, "WHAT WAS I THINKING?"

Ah, yes -- good ole bureaucracy.

AND, NOW, WE ARE GOING TO TURN THE BANKING SYSTEM, HEALTH CARE AND THE AUTO INDUSTRY OVER TO THE SAME GOVERNMENT?

HELLOOO ! Anybody Home?

"We hang the petty thieves and appoint

the great ones to public office." Aesop

And just how much of a boondoggle would we be in now if McCain/Palin were elected last November?

McCain he admitted he know nothing about ecomomics and Palin knew nothing about anything. I admit, Obama/Biden were not the sharpest tacks in the box to put up for election but better than what the republicans had proposed to run our country.

[ducknwork]

And just how much of a boondoggle would we be in now if McCain/Palin were elected last November?

McCain he admitted he know nothing about ecomomics and Palin knew nothing about anything. I admit, Obama/Biden were not the sharpest tacks in the box to put up for election but better than what the republicans had proposed to run our country.

GOOD GOD PERRY! QUIT LIVING IN THE PAST AND DWELLING ON WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN. IF YOU SPENT 1% OF THE ENERGY YOU SPEND BASHING R'S AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY ACTUALLY TRYING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER, THIS COUNTRY WOULD BE FIXED BY NOW. GET THIS THROUGH YOUR SKULL---IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN, WHAT MATTERS IS WHAT IS. YOU ARE SO CONCERNED WITH WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND TRYING TO MAKE BUSH, CHENEY, ETC LOOK BAD THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION ABOUT ANY CURRENT EVENT. QUIT DEFENDING YOUR PARTY FOR EVERYTHING IT DOES. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY CAN BE WRONG SOMETIMES!

[dnf777]

I think the original post referred to the DOE and its inception under Jimmy Carter. Checking my time machine, Jimmy Carter is no longer president either. So maybe your words are worth repeating:

GET THIS THROUGH YOUR SKULL---IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN, WHAT MATTERS IS WHAT IS.

Good point!

[Roger Perry]

GOOD GOD PERRY! QUIT LIVING IN THE PAST AND DWELLING ON WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN. IF YOU SPENT 1% OF THE ENERGY YOU SPEND BASHING R'S AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY ACTUALLY TRYING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER, THIS COUNTRY WOULD BE FIXED BY NOW. GET THIS THROUGH YOUR SKULL---IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN, WHAT MATTERS IS WHAT IS. YOU ARE SO CONCERNED WITH WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND TRYING TO MAKE BUSH, CHENEY, ETC LOOK BAD THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION ABOUT ANY CURRENT EVENT. QUIT DEFENDING YOUR PARTY FOR EVERYTHING IT DOES. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY CAN BE WRONG SOMETIMES!

Dow industrials hit new 52-week high

[Gerry Clinchy]

The DOE still "is" ... and it has not accomplished its mission, despite the billions of dollars we have thrown into it.

That is not "the past". It is a current situation ... and a model that we should be wary of as we contemplate setting up further bureacracies.

[paul young]

just how is it bashing "liberals" ok and bashing "conservatives" is not?

Mr. Ducknwork, you are guilty of the SAME behavior! it's what you do and who you are; you have no right to get indignant about Roger's posts.

get over it. you're both mud wrestling and appear to enjoy it......

.....and UB is stirring the "mud".-Paul

[paul young]

UB, both President Bush I and II could have stepped in and taken control of this boondoggle, correct? but they didn't.....16 years in the whitehouse and they did not see the need to address it, but now it's a burning issue?

i figure it's ok for me to reference the past on this one since the issue is so old.-Paul

[ducknwork]

just how is it bashing "liberals" ok and bashing "conservatives" is not?

Mr. Ducknwork, you are guilty of the SAME behavior! it's what you do and who you are; you have no right to get indignant about Roger's posts.

get over it. you're both mud wrestling and appear to enjoy it......

.....and UB is stirring the "mud".-Paul

Mr. Young,
When I speak of liberals and things that I am unhappy with, I am speaking of the present and things that I feel should be done differently. When Roger constantly bashes past administrations and expresses his desire to prosecute Bush, Cheney etc, he accomplishing nothing and contributes no ideas or even comments regarding our present situation or the situation that it appears may come to fruition if the 'liberals' have their way. I try to stay current and more on topic than that. As far as I can tell, I don't just bash liberals. I dislike and disagree with the things that they are doing and trying to do. I may bash their policies and ideals, but not them as does Roger. PLEASE point out where I have harped on the past and bashed liberals of the past. PLEASE. No, really. I want to see it. Until then, I am not guilty of the same foolish behavior that Mr. Perry exhibits on here daily.