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    This past weekend I went out chasin Mr. Bobwhite with a couple of guys I know who have some decent pointing dogs and it was almost painful to watch these dogs "retrieve" shot birds. My question is this, do any of you teach your non pointing labs to back a dog on point? I'd like to get my girl to the point where we could run her with the pointers and let her do some flushing and retriever work. I know this is common practice just wasn't sure where to start.
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    Teach her to whoa on command ,then when another dog points,whoa her.Or easier just sit her.
    My labs back,but they are of the confused type.
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    Ditto, Beamer was backing GSP's his first full season, now even if one dog goes on point and the other doesn't see it, A quick whoa or sit whistle does the trick.....

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    I ran one of mine with a GSP and when there was a point I would work her into the scent cone for the flush and retrieve. It's pretty cool to watch. Not only are both dogs covering more field but are working together as a team. She did start picking up a bad habit when she would scent a bird she would point for a second then go in on the flush. She's great to work with the youth.

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    Sit your Lab every time it sees a dog on point, and it should eventually become automatic.
    If you think I'm wrong, you might be right.

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    Thanks for the suggestions. They are right along the lines of what i had in mind. I am hoping that by teaching her to back she won't get into the habit of flash pointing when i run her on pheasants. Though I doubt that would be too big a problem. Thanks again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Hall View Post
    Sit your Lab every time it sees a dog on point, and it should eventually become automatic.
    There ya go. I train the dogs to honor point with a quick toot of the sit whistle. If we are hunting with one of those mesmerized by the scent pointing dogs, I release the Labs for the flush and retrieve once the other hunters decide to amble into position.
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    I usually hunt quail with a friend's English Setter - very birdy dog but he doesn't do retrieving. I never really thought about having my dog run with the setter. Out of some safety concerns I hunted him at heel. The guy with the gundog picks up the downed birds while the others follow the dog to the covey... Gotta be quick catching up sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Hall View Post
    Sit your Lab every time it sees a dog on point, and it should eventually become automatic.
    That is like my dogs make . You can to see working my pointing and lab wild quails in breeding time ( no much odor you know ) in

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    What Rick said,is what I thought I said,when I said,,,,,"Or easier just sit her".
    He just said it better than I said it,know what I'm saying.
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