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    Quote Originally Posted by Hew View Post
    Exactly. Because John McCain was just so way out there and all wing-nutty and stuff. And on the heels of that rabid right wing fanatic George Bush. You're totally right...America like totally needed a rest from all that kind of right wing extremism and kookery.


    Seriously. Do you even believe half the stuff you write?
    I will admit that McCain is not as far out there as many, but his VP is way out there, and although maybe she bumped him early on, she didn't help in the end. As far as me believing what I write, the past two elections (06 and 08) proved me right. Results, not rhetoric.

    As far as Bush, I won't argue where he lands on the political left-right scale. He kind of was the worst of both ends! Record high deficit spending, and at the same time, tax cuts and two wars. Not that either is bad in itself, but never in the history of civilization have they occured together successfully. But then again, he 'don't know much about history...'

    And BTW, why do you insist on bringing up Bush again and again? Isn't that taboo around here?
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    When I think of the Republican party, I think of the Ronald Reagan days. The party has moved away from his platform and looks more and more like the Dems. When I think of the Dems, I think of the JFK days and now they look more like socialists.

    Kennedy would not recognize his party and I don't believe Reagan would either.

    The funny thing is we Republicans understand that we need to get back to our roots but the people we keep electing are fairly liberal (they think they have to please everyone and so do not have convictions to stand on)

    The dems claim we need to move more to the center which the party has done for the last 20 years and it has gotten it no where. The last time the party actually had a set of convictions was under Newt, when they took the house and senate.

    It's time to ignore the left and put out a strong conservative candidate that is principled. Whom ever that candidate is, will run Obama and the Dems right over, then we can role back all of this nonsense that left is putting forward.

    Principles before party.

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    It's time to ignore the left and put out a strong conservative candidate that is principled.
    Principled ... character above the "alley cat" morals we see more often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    What's there to not like - she sounds good on the issues that are hot button. But at times good governance becomes mundane, can she do the nut & bolts. Keep us posted.
    Marvin she IS the nuts and bolts and a crazy person. More likely you will see another Minnesotan instead --Tim Pawlenty
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    I will admit that McCain is not as far out there as many, but his VP is way out there, and although maybe she bumped him early on, she didn't help in the end. As far as me believing what I write, the past two elections (06 and 08) proved me right. Results, not rhetoric.

    As far as Bush, I won't argue where he lands on the political left-right scale. He kind of was the worst of both ends! Record high deficit spending, and at the same time, tax cuts and two wars. Not that either is bad in itself, but never in the history of civilization have they occured together successfully. But then again, he 'don't know much about history...'

    And BTW, why do you insist on bringing up Bush again and again? Isn't that taboo around here?
    She didn't help with you and your fellow lefty's, she is respected and admired by conservatives.
    We don't base our opinions or ideals on what you guys HATE!!

    I don't know if anyone ever explained that to you.

    In the mean time, your party got "HI-JACKED" by left wing extremists paid for by George Soros and driven by "Move-On.org" and Acorn.

    I kinda like where I'm at.

    I'll take Palin & Bachman over Obama and "Ram" Emanuel any day.
    (note I said RAM!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    She didn't help with you and your fellow lefty's, she is respected and admired by conservatives.
    We don't base our opinions or ideals on what you guys HATE!!
    Then why didn't the bump that put McCain AHEAD in the polls last until November? The "lefties" didn't figure in to that lead at anytime, so apparently some republican or independent voters jumped ship between Palin and November. Just pointing out dates/numbers. How you interpret them is up to you, but she ain't VP today.
    I don't know if anyone ever explained that to you.
    Don't need to. I used to be a republican, and still hold onto many conservative principles....none of which were upheld over the past 8 years BTW.
    In the mean time, your party got "HI-JACKED" by left wing extremists paid for by George Soros and driven by "Move-On.org" and Acorn.
    Except for the "your party", I agree. I didn't vote for one democrat in the recent state/local elections.

    I kinda like where I'm at.

    I'll take Palin & Bachman over Obama and "Ram" Emanuel any day.
    (note I said RAM!!)
    Both P&B and RE are scary for different reasons. Rham is scary because he is intelligent and charismatic, and can promote and persuade people of his ideals, be they right or wrong. Palin and Bachmann are scary in that how could such atmospheric brain pans rise to such levels in government? Fortunately for the Republican party and America, enough conservatives see nothing but doom and pretty faces in those two, and they likely will not rise above their current elevations. (I know, this post may get revived in the future, and I may have to eat crow, but I'll go out on that limb!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
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    (that's somewhere on the SS I think)
    Pawlenty or Romney.

    BTW--RE has the charisma of a street "pit bull."

    Well documented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeus3925 View Post
    Marvin she IS the nuts and bolts and a crazy person. More likely you will see another Minnesotan instead --Tim Pawlenty
    I sincerely hope the R's can do better than Pawlenty or Romney - both governors of very liberal states. Though of those two I would lean more to Romney. Problem being that IA is the 1st caucus & it's a state that likes their handouts. Still waiting for another AUH2O moment, hope to see another in my lifetime.

    Funny thing, they all do something somewhat good, at least Obongo is talking a good talk about education, though his action to end vouchers in DC was bad, I'll wait & see what is really done regarding vouchers, school choice & charter schools. Personally, I don't think the feds should be in the Education business, it's a states responsibility, IMO.

    You have to weigh what you think they will do that is good vs. what you know will be done that is not in the best interests of our great country, hold your nose & mark the circle, draw the line, make a check mark or pull the lever.

    But the way we have drifted toward the handout society is of concern. I wonder how Ike or Harry would view the world today? Both were better presidents than we have been treated to in the last 20+ years.
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    Its funny and sad when ex Dem Joe Libermann is right of a good portion of the R's.

    BTW I like Sarah only for the fact that the mention of her name makes the left go crazy. Dont feel she is electable though.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    I sincerely hope the R's can do better than Pawlenty or Romney - both governors of very liberal states. Though of those two I would lean more to Romney. Problem being that IA is the 1st caucus & it's a state that likes their handouts. Still waiting for another AUH2O moment, hope to see another in my lifetime.

    Funny thing, they all do something somewhat good, at least Obongo is talking a good talk about education, though his action to end vouchers in DC was bad, I'll wait & see what is really done regarding vouchers, school choice & charter schools. Personally, I don't think the feds should be in the Education business, it's a states responsibility, IMO.

    You have to weigh what you think they will do that is good vs. what you know will be done that is not in the best interests of our great country, hold your nose & mark the circle, draw the line, make a check mark or pull the lever.

    But the way we have drifted toward the handout society is of concern. I wonder how Ike or Harry would view the world today? Both were better presidents than we have been treated to in the last 20+ years.
    I think the more you see of Powlenty, the more conservatives will like him. He is standing up to the liberals in Minnesota, and forcing them to curb spending.

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