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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    So true. Bush runs up we'll say 4.7 trillion in debt, and not a peep from the righties. Obama spends 290 billion, and its mayhem on the streets!

    Obama wants to provide healthcare for citizens of the US and its communism. Bush wants access to warrantless wiretaps, library and banking records, and its Patriotism.

    Democrats with majorities in both houses by duly elected representatives and a 64% margin president vote on a bill, and its "ramming down someone's throat", when a president who lost the popular vote makes recess appointments, its just getting the job done.

    The inconsistencies in outrage and standards just shoots lethal holes in the right-wing's credibility. But we already knew that. Not that dems are squeaky clean by any means, both parties stink. One just helps the working guy, and the other protects large corporate interests.
    THe majority of the TAX PAYING people in this country don;t want this crap!


    WHY SHOULD NON INCOME TAX PAYING PEOPLE BE ALLOWED TO STEAL HARD WORKING TAX PAYING PEOPLES MONEY????
    THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO MY HARD EARNED MONEY!
    THAT IS THEFT AND REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH!
    THEY CAN GO TO HECK!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by subroc View Post
    Not true. While I don't really know what the right thinks about anything, being an independent and all, I remember them clearly railing aginst the social program called prescription drugs.

    While you like to specificaly point out right wing hypocracy without ever holding the left to the same standard, when it comes to President George W. Bush, spending and the rights treatment of that deseves honesty.
    I hold the left to the same level. I've mentioned my dislike for Obama's out of control spending several times. It may go unnoticed on this forum because I do not resort to name calling. (Osama, Bumma, dummocrats, etc...)

    Not that dems are squeaky clean by any means, both parties stink. One just helps the working guy, and the other protects large corporate interests. (pasted from two posts ago)

    As for the prescription drug plan, what a windfall for the major pharmaceutical companies, and good example of the above statement. Protected them from reimportation and allows them to continue to dodge fair market pressures. They don't care if their money comes in from the gov't or consumer's pockets, why should they?
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    left wing talking points.

    One just helps the working guy, and the other protects large corporate interests. (pasted from two posts ago)
    Could you tell me which one you assert does which?

    I expect republicans, more than democrats, help the working guy. democrats on the other hand use tax dollars taken from the working man and redistribute those dollars to those that do not work all the while vilifying big business while treating them the same as republicans.
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    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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    [quote=dnf777;538936]I hold the left to the same level. I've mentioned my dislike for Obama's out of control spending several times. It may go unnoticed on this forum because I do not resort to name calling. (Osama, Bumma, dummocrats, etc...)

    Not that dems are squeaky clean by any means, both parties stink. One just helps the working guy,

    The dums only suport unions whch suport the goof off. Too many times a hard working dedicated union employee is tossed and the goof off bum keeps their job due to unions. Yes I do know what I'm talking about.
    Senior union employee caught on video waxing his motorcycle on company time stays but the lessor senority employee who has never broken a rule gets layed off. That crap stinks, and when you are the one that has to give the good employee a pink slip, well lets just say a walked out rather than do the deed.

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    I wonder if the bill, or at least this component, will now survive a constitutional challege.

    "Nelson secured full federal funding for his state to expand Medicaid coverage to all individuals below 133 percent of the federal poverty level. Other states must pay a small portion of the additional cost. He won concessions for qualifying nonprofit insurers and for Medigap providers from a new insurance tax. He also was able to roll back cuts to health savings accounts. "

    It strikes me that this creates a legal issue for a person or persons from outside Nebraska to file an anti-discrimination suit against the bill. If that happens, it may well be that the provision that Senator Nelson fought for will be ruled unconstitutional and the rest of the bill left alone. Won't that be a kick in the head! Nelson would have sold his vote for nothing and still have to face the significant majority in his state that oppose this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    You should be well-lubed after the last 8 years!!
    I think that "LUBE" is distributed in public schools now!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    So true. Bush runs up we'll say 4.7 trillion in debt, and not a peep from the righties. Obama spends 290 billion, and its mayhem on the streets!
    Typical left-sided miscomparison....so, dnf....what is our national debt NOW under BHO????

    Looking forward to a simple numercial reply regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    It's amazing that the only difference between a hero and a cad is whether or not you agree with what they do.

    NO $HITT GI!!! And of course YOUR ox is never gored.

    You pathetic socialists should be elated. You will have succeeded in forcing your UNAMERICAN views on us all in short order.

    Have no fear Kenny...it was NEVER about healthcare...it was ALWAYS about Democrat POWER. When they pass all their ludicrous pork-barrel solutions that have achieved a complete oligarchy for the present administration, and the freedoms this nation once lived by are all locked up in some bureacracy, we will all listen to how they explain to their grandkids the 'justices' they have accomplished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K G View Post
    Typical left-sided miscomparison....so, dnf....what is our national debt NOW under BHO????

    Looking forward to a simple numercial reply regards,

    kg
    http://usdebtclock.org/

    Is this helpful??

    It appears we are nearing $13,000,000,000!
    Let's say President Bush had $5 trillion that means President Obama has incresed it to $13 trillion, and increase of 260% in 1 year and we aren't even talking "free healthcare" costs yet!!
    And Cap & Trade, and Global Warming etc, etc , etc.


    I pray every night that God saves us from ourselves!!

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    Wow, rk....that number IS a whole lot bigger when looking at a $290 billion spending bill compared to the previous administration's national debt.... Who says conservatives can't make an apples-to-apples comparison....

    I'm beginning to like your sign-off regards,

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