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    The bribery schene that caused Sen. Nelson to cave in may well be a violation of the 14thAmendment. The bribe gave money to Nebraska that was not given to the people of the other 49 states. Additionally, making people purchase something from the govt., is not one of the powers relegated to the Federal Govt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bill View Post

    We can only HOPE, Eric. But with the sheeple in this nation rapidly out-populating any knowledgeable voters, I fear your statement is wishful thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Gutermuth View Post
    The bribery schene that caused Sen. Nelson to cave in may well be a violation of the 14thAmendment. The bribe gave money to Nebraska that was not given to the people of the other 49 states. Additionally, making people purchase something from the govt., is not one of the powers relegated to the Federal Govt
    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said the special allowances are just part of the legislating process and defended the lawmakers who asked for them.

    "It's the art of compromise," the Nevada Democrat told reporters. "I don't know that there's a senator who doesn't have something in this bill that's important to them. And if they don't have something in it that's important to them, it doesn't speak well of them."

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    As Tom Coburn said (more or less): This isn't legislation. This is corruption.
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    http://blog.al.com/live/2009/12/gop_..._includin.html

    http://tinyurl.com/ybrot68

    GOP attorney generals, including Alabama's Troy King, probe health care deal

    By The Associated Press
    December 23, 2009, 8:35AM

    COLUMBIA, S.C. -- The top prosecutors in seven states are probing the constitutionality of a political deal that cut a funding break for Nebraska in order to pass a federal health care reform bill, South Carolina's attorney general said Tuesday.

    Attorney General Henry McMaster said he and his counterparts in Alabama, Colorado, Michigan, North Dakota, Texas and Washington state -- all Republicans -- are jointly taking a look at the deal they've dubbed the "Nebraska compromise."

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    Last edited by Eric Johnson; 12-23-2009 at 09:54 PM.

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    The count of the number of State Attorney Generals who are looking at the constitutionality of the Reid bill has now reached 7.

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    Perhaps they can class-action this "bill" until late 2010 when the "nuclear majority" can be undone and maybe return some semblance of democracy to our country.

    Cloture should be stricken from our system of government regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by K G View Post
    Perhaps they can class-action this "bill" until late 2010 when the "nuclear majority" can be undone and maybe return some semblance of democracy to our country.

    Cloture should be stricken from our system of government regards,

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    Well, at least until 2011. Huh?

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    Apparently the number of state AG's is now up to 10.

    One third of the Senate is up for re-election in 2010. In addition, a couple of elections will occur to fill unexpired terms....Illinois and Mass. come to mind. Are enough Democratic Senators running for election that if they lose, the majority will shift? Dunno.

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    I think we can count on the party of obstruction to continue. When, oh when, will they actually come up with a viable alternative?

    The health care bill, and the NE and NV exclusions...

    If they are contested...?

    Who will be the first state AG, to make this their cause, and put themselves on the line?

    Any guesses?

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    Last edited by JDogger; 12-23-2009 at 11:08 PM.
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